• stupidcasey@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      11 days ago

      I think the whole works part is the most important part, Linux can be janky (and by that I mean obsolete information and deprecated or outdated packages are often recommended and there are a thousand different ways to do anything with only one of them actually working (don’t have an aneurysm)) on the best of days, If something just works you can change what you want later.

      • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        edit-2
        9 days ago

        Canonical is focused on servers and the cloud. Ubuntu lacks quality controls and does things differently than many other Linux systems which leads to instability. I’ve seen people complain about gnome but in reality they are complaining and Ubuntu gnome not stock. Ubuntu also uses netplan instead of network manager and doesn’t have as much systemd integration.

        Snap is also it’s own special form of hell. It runs as root as daemon and is slow to do anything. It also forces auto updates and takes control when you try to do anything with apt. It is much heavier than Flatpak and you are forced to get your apps from it.

        The sad part is that 15 years ago Ubuntu was actually pretty solid. They have just slowly lost relevance as they move the focus to things that make actual money.

        • polle@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          8 days ago

          Thanks for explaining! I am currently on kubuntu, because after some testing different distros, it had the best kde plasma 6 experience with less bugs then the others. Iam not really an ubuntu fan, but it just worked best as an kde distro.

          As for snap, I don’t know any backgrounds of it. But I had several problems with flatpaks and the same program in snap worked. It was mostly random small stuff like, Signal does not show notifcation bages or copy paste that did not work in remmina. In Both situations lots of debugging didn’t help, but switching to the snap package did. Could be a kde/flatpak/kubuntu issue of course. Auto update (for some specific) applications can be good I think and I can understand thats not the vibe that the typical linux person wants. As of the overall anti snap hype I started with just flatpaks, but they aren’t as golden as they are sold.

  • NostraDavid@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    9 days ago

    If you’re a programmer: NixOS.

    Define your OS config, which programs to install, and dotfiles in one repo. Install a fresh OS, pull in the repo (nix-shell -p git, because NixOS doesn’t come with git >_> ) and run the command to install the whole thing (sudo nixos-rebuild switch --flake .#wodan for me. wodan is just the name of a config - I have multiple all combines into one repo, so I can share configuration between machines).

    Took me 17 minutes to set up my laptop exactly the same as my Desktop. Same configuration, applications, and OS settings. It’s so fucking nice.

    With Windows, that used to take 2 days to download and install everything manually.

    Only downside: You’ll need to learn Nix-the-language, nix-the-os, and nix-the-terminal-program, which took about a month of deeply digging into the Vimjoyer and LibrePhoenix channels.

      • rumba@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        9 days ago

        yeah, snaps… they should have just gone with appimage I don’t like them either, but at least we can all settle on one bag of pain.

  • hperrin@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 days ago

    This is crazy. You shouldn’t use Ubuntu for anything desktop related. There’s nothing vanilla about vanilla Ubuntu.

    (Custom Gnome extensions, patches on top of Gnome, custom sandbox packages that don’t always work, custom apt that refuses to install the real packages in place of snaps, paywalled security patches, should I keep going?)

    • NeilBrü@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      10 days ago

      Kubuntu LTS (--minimal-install; no snap fuckery from the start) has been wonderful.

        • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          9 days ago

          The only thing that stops me from recommending Fedora and OpenSUSE more often is that there are still so many niche packages that are only offered as .deb (like Unreal Engine). Being forced to use unofficial community Flatpaks makes me uncomfortable and new converts aren’t going to want to hear how they can compile something themselves, assuming that’s an option.

          • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            9 days ago

            You should not install random package files. That is a bad idea in general and creates instability and introduces security problems.

    • Laser@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      9 days ago

      Debian gaming wasn’t great when a lot of the landscape was changing (around 2016?) and even one of my very Debian friendly colleagues switched his gaming machine to Arch back then because getting the new stuff like AMD Vulkan drivers and DXVK running was really hard on Debian. Don’t think he migrated that particular machine back since then.

      • rumba@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        9 days ago

        Prior to bookworm making non-free easy and nvidia driver opening one could make some arguments.

        These days, though, nothing compelling can be said to walk past Debian.

        • Laser@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          9 days ago

          Yeah, but the post I replied to said “since 1998”. That is prior to bookworm.

          Personally, I don’t care for it too much. Every time I try it (which is rare) something annoys me. "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE"s, deviation from upstream that renders official documentation less valuable. With Arch (which I don’t use anymore), you can be pretty sure that what’s on your machine is what’s currently released by upstream. This refers both to version and the software itself. Remember cdrkit? xscreensaver? The weak OpenSSH keys? Sure, these must notable examples are from long ago, but there were just so many issues over the course of my “career” that the distribution for me is somewhat burned. Also because all of this could have been easily avoided.

          Anyhow, use what you want, but it’s for sure not my favorite distro.

  • Kyden Fumofly@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    9 days ago

    Just checked my Mint. Why Cinnamon uses so much VRAM? I have over 1GB idle, without anything running. In my Windows i usually have 400Mb with all things closed.