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    You support his ideology if you remain on that platform.

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    … and a bunch of people continue to rub elbows with Nazis instead of deleting their accounts and moving to Mastodon. I wonder what the breaking point will be?

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    When IBM, the guys that developed the computer system to schedule and track the holocaust itself, go “OY, cool your rhetoric Elon”, you know you’re well off the deep end.

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    I don’t think there will be much damage. It’s not as though this were some huge surprise. The only people left on X agree with him or don’t care enough to mildly adjust their habits. I saw that IBM “paused” their ads, but I’d bet a nickel they will resume them once this blows over. They know what Xitter is. All the corporations know and don’t care. This very article on the NYT website has a button to share it on Twitter.

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      So true. I think in general human beings dont really care as long as it doesn’t affect them personally.

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      Not true. Lots of are still there because lots are still there. You see they tried to move to Mastadon, but obviously were confused. They leave like three accounts on three different instances with a few posts about being confused or not getting on with Mastadon.

      They aren’t nazies, they just don’t feel they can move.

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        “If 10 people are sitting at a table being civil to 1 nazi, there are 11 nazis at the table.”

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          They aren’t being civil to the Nazi. They aren’t conceding the table. They are furious at him for messing up the table.

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            This metaphor falls down when you realize the table is in a restaurant owned by a Nazi, and the table by the window makes the restaurant look really popular.

            Refusing to concede the table is literally adding value to the Nazi owned table, and giving others cover to say “no we also hate Nazis; we’re just here because that table looks cool” which furthers the problem.

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              They are there because they were there before the Nazi bought the restaurant.

              I want them to leave to, and come to Mastadon and Lemmy, but they don’t see able to. I don’t think of them as Nazies because of it. They argue with the Nazies. They are just ignorant and not IT literate enough to move. Though I think there is wide acceptance that it’s getting more and more toxic there.

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                Oh, shit, well as long as they got to the restaurant before the Nazi bought it, I guess there’s no harm in continuing to support it. Especially if they don’t have the technical knowledge to… Stop using a website?

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                  Not sure you can say the are supporting it. They can’t use the other restaurants and can’t cook. There is probably a certain amount of denial they are dealing will full-on Nazies. Hard to see something when doing so means you have to act in a way very detrimental to your life.

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          That’s just a rubbish oneliner to make people think they’re smart. It’s the first time I stumble upon it, but its up there with “Live Laugh Love”, “never say never” and “you only live once”…

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              I’d have a civilised discussion with everyone, especially irl, even if they’d killed my brother, and not reject them before a conversation just based on their beliefs or actions… I may well reject them for not being able to discuss or argue, but dialogue is always the way to approach a dispute

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              I never do. It sounds like you regularly intentionally misinterpreted what people say, to either make fun, bully or boost your own ideas.

              I do not approve of Nazis, but I think talking to them and discussing with them is the best we can do to convince them of what they’re doing wrong.

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    EV competition can’t come fast enough. I love my Model S, but when the lease is up I am not buying another Tesla unless the board removes him, like, completely removes him. No stock, no continued royalties or pay out, I want him gone.

    What a piece of shit waste of a human.

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            🎵🎶 to the right now, to the left, take it back now y’all… cha cha real smooth🎵🎶

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          Wholeheartedly agree. Though I am not sure I would agree with your framing of it being ‘left’ or ‘right’. For sure the content seems to have more vitriol and divisiveness. I would use it in the past to follow scientists and their updates about research, it was really good for that.

          Now the majority of those I follow post inflammatory comments or reactions to other content and I find the content writ large has decreased. I’ve so far increased my RSS, IRC, and mailing list usage, but it was nice to have tweets which are character-limited. I could skim through easier without having something catch my attention.

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      This happens so much. Look at GOP policy. Religiosity, corporate dick-sucking, or spite, often overrides logical, cost-effective choices (well, at least the cost-effective choices for the American people. I’m sure their individual pockets are fine.).

      Examples: subsidizing abortion vs. supporting another child in poverty, UBI vs. the admin and labor costs of running individual benefit programs, etc.

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        He’s sitting on a big enough pile not to miss it. I wonder how much of this is crazy and how much is political hedging.

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          I’d be surprised if he could liquidate more than 40bln today, look at Tesla stocks P/E, its a house of paper cards. Spacex is always reportedly on the edge of bankruptcy. Last evaluation I saw of twitter value from its lenders was around 17bln, subtract its debts, that’s about 4bln.

          He really has bet the house, it now a question of how long he can keep going on Tesla stock backed loans and if the stock price holds.

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    IBM’s marketing team must be so glad to have gotten the opportunity for something good to show up when their company’s name and Nazi are searched together

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    At this point, is any racist shit from that dude even worth posting news about? Like i get that there should be consequences but i do not see any. All i see is info about a man i really do not want to read anything about. Daily. Not even only on here. Why does the internet have to be so god damn us-centric that i can not escape their crazy billionaires?

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        Also whats up with all the shaming and animosity towards people that have a hard time leaving a platform that they have grown accustomed with. I feel it is a bit ignorant to blame the users for the actions of of a rich maniac simply aquiring whatever he pleases.

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            It’s easy to leave when you’re anonymous because you don’t exactly have built social connections (unless you choose to) such as the case in Reddit. But on social media where you’re not anonymous and most of your friends and family are there, such as Facebook and Twitter, it’s hard to leave. Besides, most people in real life don’t care about privacy and other concerns arising from social media. They get dopamine high from getting validation as well as they just got used to the platform to leave.

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                Ha easy for you to say if your social circle mostly go on the likes Facebook and Twitter.

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                  I’m not being facetious or unkind here, but for many 10’s of thousands of years we have been developing meaningful social circles by seeing people in person. Just give it a go!

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            Urgh, i gotta say i too get the feeling that a lot of the animosity of reddit swept right over so i guess you are not wrong. Not my kind of beer.

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            It was brought to my attention lemmy has no native Mute support and not all apps have Mute. Its something they should support as a compromise for users who don’t want to leave, or otherwise, choose not to ignore topics.

            I have no problem with No Fuck Monkey getting posted here. He is the richest technologist on Earth. X/Twitter is still a thing. SpaceX is a thing. That’s technology.

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      Yes, as long as there are people who think he’s cool. Or think he’s not a total piece of shit.

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        He’s just about whittled his support down to the sort of people that cheer on that sort of shit, just like Trump

        Once you get to that point News like this actually does help him. The people who care already know and so this just builds up his core supporters.

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    Just because the article is about a tech company owner doesn’t mean it’s related to technology.

    Musk being a shitty person isn’t technology related.

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        No, it really isn’t. A social media company’s income is business or financial related, not technology.

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        Does that mean any business that has a web platform or an app is valid content for this sub?

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          Twitter doesn’t just have a web platform, it is a web platform and used to be one of the largest. But I’d say that yeah, tech companies fall into my personal idea of what this sub is

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        So where is the “technology” in that? Just because it’s a social media company? There’s dozens of those now, so what? A company implementing a new API or front end website redesign or new service that uses technology is technology. Not this. This is just general shit. The Internet boom was in the 90s. You may have had a point back then when this stuff was actually new.

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        A lot of people will upvote anything on a list without even looking at the community or considering the relevance of the post to that community (/all, /subs, /new, etc.)

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            I mean, women and non-whites vote republican, so I don’t put a ton of stock into what the numbers say. I’m sure Florida or Texas could pass a vote re-establishing slavery, but that doesn’t mean the people are right.

            Just because an article involves a tech company doesn’t mean it’s about technology. Twitter losing ad revenue because it’s owner is a nazi is not about technology; it’s about marketing, finance, and politics.

            It would be nice if this community didn’t devolve into a Musk news feed like it did on Reddit.

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              Just because an article is about a tech company doesn’t mean it’s about technology. Correct.

              This community is called “technology”. Also correct.

              But people can post what they want and upvote what they want. So if this is what they want, then they aren’t wrong. Look at “trees”. Not a single damn tree in the whole place.

              I really do recommend starting a community called techWithoutMusk and moderating it how you like. I’m sure a bunch of people would join. Or become a mod here, and change what people can vote on.

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        Typical .world W and .ml L

        Actually, I find it rather humorous that .world lets the users dictate what’s discussed, while .ml dictates what the users can discuss. It runs counter to the ideologies that .ml is associated with, yet it fits perfectly with most implementations of that ideology. Life imitates art indeed.

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          Yeah, except .world’s fucking weird when it comes to piracy and keep actively trying to horde the userbase for some reason?

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        And you are salty af.

        E: Y’all don’t like the occasional username joke? 😂