• gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Machine learning could find those strengths and weaknesses and learn to work around them likely better than a human could. It’s just trial and error. There’s nothing about the human brain that makes it better suited to understanding the inner logic of an LLM.

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      1 year ago

      For that you need a program to judge the quality of output given some input. If we had that, LLMs could just improve themselves directly, bypassing any need for prompt engineering in the first place.

      The reason prompt engineering is a thing is that people know what is expected and desired output and what isn’t, and can adapt their interactions with the tool accordingly, a trait uniquely associated with adaptive complex systems.

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        If we had that, LLMs could just improve themselves directly, bypassing any need for prompt engineering in the first place.

        Yep, exactly, and it’s been studied and put in to practice effectively already.

        Prompt tuning is not the only way to fine tune the output of an LLM, and since the goal for most is going to be to make them usable by anyone, that’s going to be the least desirable route.

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          I know LLMs are used to grade LLMs. That isn’t solving the problem, it’s just better than nothing because there are no alternatives. There aren’t enough humans willing to endlessly sit and grade LLM responses.

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      Congrats. You don’t understand the difference between a statistical model and a human.

      I expected more from a gaylord fartmaster. 2/10.

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        In what way?

        Why couldn’t even a basic reinforcement learning model be used to brute force “figure out what input gives desired X output”?

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      Actually most (I think all, but not 99% positive) machine learning models are incapable of doing straight arithmetic. Due to the way they are built ML models, including deep learning models, can only learn relationships in a limited input space.

      This is most apparent when you test LLMs on different arithmetic operations:

      • For addition, it does okay up until you get to millions or billions
      • Multiplication I think breaks at the 100/1000 level
      • exponents almost break immediately
      • Give it decimal values and it also breaks relatively quickly for any operation.

      This has to do with the fact that LLMs are effectively multiple layers of linear functions, so higher order operations break down faster.