It’s sort of a different concept. Posts and users also have position in addition to age and score. The sorting algorithm gives you complete control over how much to weight each one. It’s like if new and hot existed on a continuous spectrum. It’s sort of like what Aaron Swartz initially wanted to do with Reddit where what you like would be able to inform what you might like in the future. But in this case you get complete control over how much that matters.
I’m adding bits and knobs here and there every day. Yesterday I added the ability to have posts that are hidden from the front page. It’s probably not a feature people will use every day but it’s there if someone wants it and it’s things like that I’m working on every day. In a little bit I’m going to add a “post whenever” feature in case someone wants to post a ton of content and have it actually post over time.
I’d say all and all the project has been a success for what I wanted to do with it and I’m happy with what I’ve built. The other side of it is trying to build community on the site. For example we do a movie night once a week on Saturdays.
Oh. Another thing that is different to most reddit clones is that every community exists. Like you don’t have to create a community to post to it. Just post to it. Different capitalization maps to the same community.
You guys should check it out. It would be super awesome if anynone wants to help fill in the more obscure topics.
Why is it called Matrix when Matrix is already a decentralized chat?
So many of us came here from Reddit because we felt burned by them, and the whole monolithic architecture feels like it risks getting corporatized. I came to a federated place because it seems much less likely to have that happen. Not really interested in that model currently.
Yeah. Giving big corporations control over what other people say or think and allowing them the power to warp people’s perception of consensus is guaranteed to put them at odds with their user base. And it’s always a matter of time before that ends up affecting your particular user group. For what it’s worth I have no interest in controlling what people say or think.
I don’t know if that fully answered your question. Basically I think the line between good and bad is whether or not you are dealing with a large corporation. Federation is just one way of ensuring that. Then other is just not using corporate social media in general and you end up on the right side of the line in either case.
In some ways the web itself is decentralized. Not decentralized is when the users of the internet become concentrated on the 20 biggest sites. That’s what gives you reddit. Being an element of a large decentralized whole without contributing to concentration is a kind of decentralized. My interest is to make the web itself more decentralized (less concentrated) and increase the diversity of algorithms and distinct communities people see the world through and interact with.
Either way it’s something I made and people can check it out. That’s what I love about the web as a layer of decentralization. Not many other kinds of decentralization let you do that.
Giving big corporations control over what other people say or think
Wait… what? Reddit is not a “big corporation”. Reddit also doesn’t have control over what people say, let alone think. Moderation on Reddit is done by the community.
Honestly I think your service sounds even worse than Reddit. Sure, you’re not as big but neither was reddit when they first started out. Unlike reddit it looks like your service does directly control things? You’ve got one policy for the whole site dictating acceptable content, while Reddit has thousands of policies created by users.
Ultimately I think the Lemmy is the right approach to this type of website. If you think you can do a better job then Lemmy, then by all means go ahead. But I think being on the fediverse is table stakes.
Reddit is not a “big corporation”.
How big is big? They’re working on a 6.5 billion dollar valuation. Sure, that’s not S&P 500, but that’s not your mom and pop coffee shop.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/01/reddit-seeking-a-valuation-of-up-to-6point5-billion-in-ipo.html
That’s what the founders of Reddit believed when they started. We all jumped ship from Digg because Digg became too corporate and greedy, and Reddit was our safe haven.
Now here we are, over a decade later, and we’re jumping ship again because Reddit has become too corporate and greedy.
Lemmy has the advantage of being decentralized, with no single person or corporation running it, and you’re proposing a Reddit clone, run by an individual? Honestly, I love the ideas you have for Matrix, I love what you’ve accomplished with it, and I love your optimism for the site. But I’ve been burned too many times in the past by hopeful honest innovators who let money and power slowly corrupt them over time. Unless you can add your site to the federation, I’m gonna have to pass, even as enticing as your site looks now. I’m too jaded to trust a single entity/corporation to host social media content.
Yet another far right conspiracy dump, just with a more garbage layout and design than anything else.
It doesn’t have to be. You guys can make it whatever you want ;)
you might wanna name it something different than Matrix, a decentralised messaging protocol.
I know. Around the time I did the first bout of development on it, Matrix decided they were going to become Element which was going to free up the name. They decided to keep both. I’m at a loss for a good name that describes that posts have position. That the posts exist in a matrix makes sense to me. I have plans to run a poll on a name change. I know I could always do something completely random. Like Lemmy. That doesn’t tell you what it does at all. But my particular brand of creativity makes me want to name things functionally. And Matrix is just so freaking perfect for what it is. All the other similar options are way too nerdy. Latent, vector. I just need to get down with the truly random.
Ideas would actually be super helpful.
Matrix is the messaging protocol. Element is the chat app built on the Matrix protocol. It was originally named RIOT.IM. They changed the messengers name from Riot to Element, the name Matrix was never going to be changed, mostly because those are separate things. They dropped the name to avoid litigation from Riot Games.
Matrix is a framework that has multiple chat applications, Element was just one of them.
Call it Downie Upers
Ok. That will be a candidate for the name change.
That’s not right Matrix was never going to become Element.
Wait, what? A user posts a thing to a server, and that thing isn’t then duplicated to 50 other servers … yeah, I don’t see how that can work.
(I’m just kidding - your site looks neat.)
You know that happens with centralised sites too, right? It’s invisible because all the redundant servers are behind the same domain name.
Edit: I think I missed the joke, sorry everyone.
I don’t think they were talking about actual physical hardware.
Large centralised systems have international mirrors, you know that right?
And even if they were somehow all in the same building, that wouldn’t be a good thing. Redundancy makes a service robust, and copying data isn’t exactly difficult.
I’m commenting under the impression that the guy was talking about the fact that the system is not federated, not that he was talking about physical hardware.
For what it’s worth, I’m a senior developer who spent 8 years at Amazon partially working on developing and scaling systems that received millions of requests per day.
Yeah, I’m assuming that too. Although on my first reading they appeared to be making fun of the way the fediverse does things, on my second reading I think they might be making fun of how people talk about the fediverse, in which case my response wasn’t appropriate. Oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So this is centralized?
