I think there’s definitely a case to be made that recommendation algorithms, etc. constitute editorial control and thus the platform may not be immune to lawsuits based on user posts.
media: Video games cause violence
media: Weird music causes violence.
media: Social media could never cause violence this is censorship (also we don’t want to pay moderators)
Since media (that you define by the trophes of unsubtantiated news outlets) couldnt sensibly refer to a forum like reddit or even facebook, this makes no sense.
What is it with libs and their inability to understand what the term “radicalize” mean?
It’s really simple. The white supremacist content this little alt-right child terrorist was watching wasn’t radical - it was reactionary. Ie, right-wing and therefore anti-radical.
Come on libs, tell me… is this really so hard to get?
Radical politics denotes the intent to transform or replace the fundamental principles of a society or political system, often through social change, structural change, revolution or radical reform.[1] The process of adopting radical views is termed radicalisation.
The word radical derives from the Latin radix (“root”) and Late Latin rādīcālis (“of or pertaining to the root, radical”). Historically, political use of the term referred exclusively to a form of progressive electoral reformism, known as Radicalism, that had developed in Europe during the 18th and 19th centuries. **However, the denotation has changed since its 18th century coinage to comprehend the entire political spectrum, **though retaining the connotation of “change at the root”.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_politics
Seems like the word fits for his politics.
Did you actually read any of that before you posted it, lib?
Read this part here real slow like.
Radical politics denotes the intent to transform or replace the fundamental principles of a society
Pray tell… show me a white supremacist that wants to transform or replace white supremacism?
Should be pretty easy for a big-brained liberal like you to accomplish, shouldn’t it?
Seems like the word fits for his politics.
So again… why is something so decidedly simple proving so damn difficult for liberals to understand?
If you believe that white supremacy is a fundamental principle of society then I suppose that yes, such a person would not have been “radicalized” from that perspective.
If you believe that white supremacy is a fundamental principle of society
And wtf did you think white supremacism is, genius? What did you think makes (so-called) “western civilization” western?
“Western” civilization is fundamentally white supremacist and always has been. What the hell did you think these white supremacists are trying to protect?
People are quick to paint the far-right as insane or stupid - but, in truth, they are far less naive about the world they exist in than their just-plain-right liberal cousins.
Whelp. The inbreeding has gotten this one. Sit down before you pop an embolism.
I just love how libs show their true right-wing colors as soon as you start poking holes in their holy cows.
Do tell, lib… did you also not know what the term “western” is a dog-whistle for?
It’s just so sad watching you try to put together a full thought. It just sort of sounds like fart noises and diarrhea plopping out of your mouth.
Hey - if I stop by do you think your wifesistermother would give me a handy? It probably wouldn’t be a bad idea for your family tree to get some new blood after this many generations. Does she have more fingers than teeth? If so, maybe we can get into the weird shit.
Suck on an unwashed sock, you puppet.
Oh look… a white supremacist has shown up.
No, I’m just not an anti-west moron. I’m also a communist, you slime.
Love Reddit’s lies about them taking down hateful content when they’re 100% behind Israel’s genocide of the Palestinians and will ban you if you say anything remotely negative about Israel’s govenment. And the amount of transphobia on the site is disgusting. Let alone the misogyny.
Do you mean “behind” like responsible for or in favor of?
I think from context we can assume in favor of. I don’t think anyone is accusing Reddit of masterminding the Gaza conflict. I haven’t been to /r/conspiracy in a while through.
Lol, yeah I moderated major trans subreddits for years. It was entirely hit and miss if we’d get support from the admins
What about shutting down the whole internet?
Maybe this will lead to a future where Stochastic Terrorism isn’t a protected activity?
YouTube feeds me so much right wing bullshit I’m constantly marking it as not interested. It’s a definite problem.
I can’t prove that they were related but I used to report all conservative ads (Hillsdale Epoch times etc) to Google with all caps messages how I was going to start calling the advertisers directly and yell at them for the ads, about 2-3 days after I started doing that the ads stopped.
I would love for other people to start doing this to confirm that it works and to be free of the ads.
I purchased a flannel and a top water lure online from Rural King and didn’t realize it came with an extra month of right wing conspiracy ads. I report the ads but they just keep coming.
Can you try my method and see if it works? I am really curious
Lol okay, I’ll try the all caps, and report back if anything changes. I’m not going to call the companies though
That worked for me also. I like a lot of sports docs on YouTube. That triggered non stop Joe Rogan suggestions and ads for all kinds of right wing news trash.
I quit drinking years ago and I reported every (e alcohol) ad explaining that I am no longer their target market and the ads are literally dangerous to me. They were gone within a few weeks - haven’t seen a booze ad in 5+ years.
It’s amazing how often I get a video from some right wing source suggested to me companting about censorship and being buried by youtube. I ended up installing a third party channel blocker to deal with it.
Is fucking insane how much that happens I stopped using Instagram for that reason at least yt listened to my “not interested” choices. I also have revnaced so IDK what ads it would shoot at me.
YouTube started feeding me that stuff too. Weirdly once I started reporting all of them as misinformation they stop showing up for some reason…
I don’t understand how a social media company can face liability in this circumstance but a weapons manufacturer doesn’t.
Or individuals who repeatedly spreading the specific hateful ideology that radicalize people and also encourages them to act on it
So now anyone who says things is going to be held accountable for crazy people being crazy?
What a lovely world we live in. That’s worse than what CNN kept saying about the joker after that one mass shooting at the theater that happened to be showing “The Dark Knight” at the same time.
So now anyone who says things is going to be held accountable for crazy people being crazy
Nope, that’s just you being melodramatic. The judge has acknowledged there is grounds for the case to be argued so it won’t he dismissed. That’s all. They haven’t been found guilty of anything. They’re not being lined up and shot.
What would you prefer we did to determine if a company is culpable? Just ask you because you read a headline?
Personally I believe in free will. Nothing should take any responsibility away from the one that chose to kill.
Justice isn’t a zero sum game. More than one person can contribute to the same crime.
sure, if there were multiple shooters
anything but gun regulation, i guess.
As much as I believe it is a breeding ground for right wing extremism, it’s a little strange that 4chan is being lumped in with these other sites for a suit like this. As far as I know, 4chan just promotes topics based on the number of people posting to it, and otherwise doesn’t employ an algorithm at all. Kind of a different beast to the others, who have active algorithms trying to drive engagement at any cost.
I will testify under oath with evidence that Reddit, the company, has not only turned a blind eye to but also encouraged and intentfully enabled radicalization on their platform. It is the entire reason I am on Lemmy. It is the entire reason for my username. It is the reason I questioned my allyship with certain marginalized communities. It is the reason I tense up at the mention of turtles.
“Noooo it’s our algorithm we can’t be held liable for the program we made specifically to discover what people find a little interesting and keep feeding it to them!”
I wonder if you built a social media site where the main feature was that the algorithm just showed you things in sequential order like in the old days, would it be popular
No, there is too much content for that nowadays. YouTube has over 3 million new videos each day. Facebook, TikTok, Instagram also has ridiculous amounts of new posts every day. Browsing Reddit on New was a terrible experience on r/all or even many of the bigger subs. Even on the fediverse sorting by new is not enjoyable. You are swarmed with reposts, and content that’s entirely uninteresting to you.
It works in smaller communities but there it isn’t really necessary. You usually have an overview of all the content anyhow and it doesn’t matter how it’s ordered.
Any social media that plans on scaling up needs a more advanced system.
I enjoy using Lemmy mostly that way, just sorting the feed by new / hot / whatever and looking at new posts of random shit. Much more entertaining than video-spamming bullshit.
People complain about mastodons lack of algorithms a lot. Its part of how misskey, ice shrimp, and catodon came to be
I find it very weird to be living in a country legalizing drugs and assisted suicide (even for depression) but simultaneously trying to severely curtail free speech, media freedom and passing legislation to jail people at risk of breaking the law who don’t meet the “conspiracy to commit” threshold".
What exactly are you referring to here?
Been on the canadian news the last few days, federal Liberals are trying to bring in pre-crime legislation.
This thread is about a mass shooter from New York. Are you lost?
No. Context fuckwit.
Tonight we investigate the hacker known as 4chan. More at 9.
Who is this “Four Chan”?
