For good of the world. Drop out, Biden.
Hi there! 👋 Ingham County Clerk Barb Byrum, here. To all of those calling for a change of candidacy in the Presidential Race, please note that the election administration community is going to have some serious issues with that. 🧵 To be clear, Michigan wouldn’t even be the worst of the problems. Our statute requires that a major party’s Presidential and Vice Presidential Candidates be certified to the State within one business day of that party’s national or state convention, whichever is later. The Democrats are holding their National Convention from August 19-22 and their Michigan State Convention on August 24th. The deadline is therefore August 26th. Ballots to Military and Overseas voters must go out by September 21st, 2024 and AV Ballots must be available to Michigan Voters by September 26th, 2024 by law. However, as I stated, this is for Michigan only. Every state has different statutory deadlines for ballot access and for Absentee Ballots to go out, and it is therefore dependent on identifying those dates and requirements 50 times. My cursory understanding of other states is that that deadline may already have passed for some states, or may be in the VERY near future. It is worth pointing out that even if Democrats follow the strictures of the law state-by-state, you would almost assuredly see lawsuits flying fast and often in any number of states, if they attempt to make a change. Such lawsuits threaten to delay and derail County and Local Clerks’ efforts to program the election and prepare ballots, respectively. Essentially, efforts to prepare for the election would have to be put on hold. That’s not a good thing in Election world. After the ballot is created, the election equipment must be tested. This is often a lengthy process that includes testing at the County prior to election materials being distributed to local Clerks, then the local clerks do internal testing and finally Public Accuracy Testing. Delays at any point in the process may impact local clerks’ ability to meet their statutory deadlines. So Democrats need to understand the ramifications of the actions that some are talking about. This may extend far beyond the choice for President and put a cloud over the election. It would also give ammunition to a candidate who hasn’t been shy about spreading disinformation about the validity of election results and give the opportunity to further erode the public’s trust in our elections process. And I will not stand for that. However Clerks in Michigan are the best in the business and we stand ready to conduct the Presidential Election this November with whatever candidates are legally placed on the ballot through the Primary and nominating Convention process.
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So in other words, damned if you do, damned if you don’t
With every news personality declaring it, regardless, the polls will eventually say that anyway
The left deciding to eat itself just before such a vital election isn’t surprising but it is weird
The liberals not the left. The left was warning you about slow walking Biden to the next election since he got elected. The liberals didn’t listen. Now we’re here because it wasn’t convient to listen to the left four years ago.
Quit scapegoating and spreading misinformation. “The left” had fuck-all to do with this debacle.
The left has been shitting over its best interests this whole election cycle so I guess you could argue they’d already fucked.up as much as they had the power to so are now unable to do anything but petulantly whine
And he already told us he doesn’t believe the polls, so we’re fucked.
Or, he’s lying. Just because he wants to build suspense.
“But I get overwhelming support. Overwhelming support. I won … I forget how many votes I won in the primary, overwhelming.”
I mean as only one running in it one would hope so
I just did a poll on everyone who watched that press conference and it says, “there’s no way you can win.”
Ok…who’s next?
…THATS WHAT THE POLLS SAY!!!
He doesn’t remember.
The gambling odds have started to show a significantly better chance for Kamala winning than Biden now, it’s an interesting shift.
And, those odds aren’t odds that only take affect if she is made the nominee, there’s no prerequisites there, it’s generic odds of just Kamala running and winning the election period.
Yeah. People are cleaning up on polymarket.
Source?
I have that user marked as “a fucking idiot” so he likely doesn’t have a source
Hey, the nature of probabilities with uncertainty is that they’ll never reach zero, he’ll just have a 0.005% chance of win, which is technically not “no way”. Checkmate bedwetters.
It’s too late to swap horses in this race. The time was two years ago, and the best hope now is that the “anyone but Trump” vote prevails.
The “anyone but trump vote” is me. All these headlines are noise.
See yall in November.
The Dem candidate isn’t going to add any Trump votes.
It’s only going to establish how many Dems are enthusiastic enough to get off their butts.
The time was 4 years ago when leftists were calling his mental condition out. It was apparent then, even Obama lightly alluded to it several times.
If he loses either Pennsylvania or Michigan, he can’t win.
He doesn’t have to lose both of them, just losing one or the other puts him underwater.
So how is that going?
PA - Trump +3 to +7.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/MI - Biden +5 to +6.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/michigan/Erf, and fivethirtyeight is one of the poll sites that tends to be pretty accurate =/
I heard they actually lost their statistician who originally set the whole thing up. I’m expecting a decline in quality. Wikipedia says the original guy, Nate Silver left and created his own website last year. Natesilver.net
And he’s been saying for weeks that Biden is unlikely to win and should drop out
After reading all the comments on here and all of our social media, we don’t need an official poll. Even the staunchest of Democrats are now saying the same thing that many of us have been saying for over 4 years.
Unless Obama personally drags him behind the woodshed I don’t see him dropping out. His hubris is too strong, and his identity is too connected to his political career. This was never about the country. It was always exclusively about Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden’s egos.
Yeah, I’m so sick and tired of people delicately tiptoeing around these people because “whatabout their LEGACY”. I can assure there are very few Americans that GAF about Biden’s so-called legacy, but we keep having to play this stupid game.
Again, I’ll be voting for him if he’s in the general. But I want the Democrats to win and I’m not too sure we aren’t royally fucked if it’s him on the ticket.
No one - I mean absolutely no one - runs for President without a high level of ego and narcissism. Who the fuck thinks they are best suited to “lead the free world”? No one with an ounce of humility.
Bernie. Sanders.
I like Bernie. And maybe he’s an exception. But the cynic in me doubts he is entirely immune.
But for sure, good call.
I’m sure he is not entirely immune. Nobody is, but I also firmly believe in Bernie’s ability to put the good of others before himself when it truly matters most. I cannot say the same about Trump, Hillary, or Biden.
You are blinded by hero worship if you think his ego wasn’t at play. I like the man, I like his politics, but come on man, get real. He wasn’t falling on a sword, he was running for the highest office in the land with millions of devoted supporters cheering love to him 24/7. No one is immune from the ego boost that provides and it will warp ones perspective no matter who you are.
Bernie is 1 year older than Biden and has a bad heart. He’s not fit for the office.
Even with a bad heart he can run circles around the decrepit POS in there now
Bernie is still sharp as a tack. Also, we weren’t talking about fitness. We were talking about character and ethics.
Maybe, if you think about it, your country is pretty much built on ego?
I don’t need to think about it. I already know that is the case.