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Possibly linux@lemmy.zip to Privacy@lemmy.worldEnglish · 7 months ago

Why I Trust Signal: My Go-To for Secure Messaging - YouTube

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Possibly linux@lemmy.zip to Privacy@lemmy.worldEnglish · 7 months ago
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    I don’t trust Signal. Haven’t used it since it went down when people and capitol rioters fled WhatsApp and signed up. My understanding is it’s a brittle centralized system just like WhatsApp.

    AND back when I did use it, the app had dark patterns that included spamming all your contacts when you set up the app.

    Matrix still needs work, but it is the future in this space.

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      Matrix still needs work, but it is the future in this space.

      Matrix can send encrypted events [1.1], but, imo, the Matrix protocol is a firehose of metadata [1.3][1.2]. I’d argue that metadata leakage doesn’t lend itself well to anonymity; if one seeks anonymity, then I think they should seek to reduce their metadata footprint, as, logically, any information is better than no information when trying to identify someone.

      References
      1. “Client-Server API”. “Matrix Specification”. Matrix Foundation. Version: 1.12. Accessed: 2024-12-09T02:21Z. https://spec.matrix.org/v1.12/client-server-api
        1. §“Sending encrypted attachments” (§10.12.1.7). https://spec.matrix.org/v1.12/client-server-api/#sending-encrypted-attachments.
        2. §“Extensions to m.room.message msgtypes” (§10.12.1.7.1). https://spec.matrix.org/v1.12/client-server-api/#extensions-to-mroommessage-msgtypes.
        3. §“Events” (§10.2.1). https://spec.matrix.org/v1.12/client-server-api/#events-2.
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        I think that’s fair, maybe I should have said efforts like Matrix.

        But I’d also view a singular commercial company’s no-cost product as not being a long term bet on privacy/anonymity.

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      I don’t trust Signal. Haven’t used it since it went down when people and capitol rioters fled WhatsApp and signed up. My understanding is it’s a brittle centralized system just like WhatsApp.

      Imo, there are more components to trust than service reliability (iiuc) — eg: trust in the underlying protocol, trust in the governing body etc.

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        Yes, I agree.

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