The installation was very easy! It’s very greatful that my data doesn’t send to Google any more.

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      Graphene really is the next best thing. If you can get your hands on a used Pixel or splurge for a new one, you won’t regret converting. At least until there’s a production-ready gnuPhone

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        I don’t really understand why Pixel is that evryone likes/they support.
        I can’t accept the fact that there is no external sd card support.
        I believe I am getting old because I am very stuck on this point, even more than the headphone jack.

        Nevermind I just saw Motorola is actually making a deal with gaphene OS. They were my next future phone with sd cards and even styluses- if this goes through, can’t wait!

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          Pixels are the main target of aftermarket ROMs because they are reference Android devices with highly available unlocked developer modes. Most companies producing phones do things like add propriety changes that require substantial workarounds for relatively basic hardware functionality and make it much more difficult to even install an aftermarket ROM.

          Really this is all a consequence of capitalism itself and the need to lock in ecosystems to establish controlled markets (allowing for controlling one’s own profit). Every phone could be fully unlockable and hackable by the end user, but companies specifically prevent this in order to maximize their own profits.

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              Yeah but apple actually takes care of its customers. They are one of the few ones that is exactly what it seems, and isn’t expensive or cheap. Most people saying apple devices are overpriced simply aren’t the target demographic for the products.

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                Apple routinely slows down its phones with every major update, promoting people buying $1k+ phones every 2-3 years.

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          I also like having expanded storage. But if you actually care about privacy?

          You want the minimum amount of data on your phone at any given time. Your recent camera roll, any cached music and apps, and that is really it. Everything should be offloaded to your private storage ASAP

          Because for as shit as google and apple are? You can also remote wipe those devices. less effective if it is a government agent that has it, but it is a thing. And, depending on the storage setup, that sd card might be raw dogging it to begin with.

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            It shouldn’t be difficult for a custom ROM like GrapheneOS to make the user explicitly allow a microSD card to be mounted if that would cause any security issues.

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              And welcome to software development. Every feature needs time (money), engineers (money), and testing (money). With most testing continuing in perpetuity because any pull request could break it.

              And when you add on that graphene is a nonprofit baked FOSS project… Well, if it is as simple as you think it is then get to making a pull request, I guess?

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        I’d argue that Graphene is a better thing since it’s based on an OS that’s been designed for mobile from the ground up. I expect it’s going to be a while before Linux UX on mobile catches up to desktop, but Graphene works great already.

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          Sad thing is that Linux used to be ahead on phones. Everyone swore by N900 and it was sabotaged by ms buykilling Nokia.

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          Graphene only supports pixels currently.

          They have hardware encryption tech other phones don’t have that graphene uses

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        I am waiting on the release of the Volla Phone Plinius. Gonna get the one with ubuntu touch. TBH the only reason for that, is that I really lioe how it looks. I don’t really enjoy the look of the Jolla with the notch and the huge bottom bezel. But I am just nitpicky. They both don’t use the mainline linux kernel. But maybe if enough people switch, hardware manufacturers will be forced to provide mainline linux firmware instead of OEMs having to create their own custom linux kernel.

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        Still have it?You can try maemo Leste on it. https://maemo-leste.github.io/

        Far from usable as daily phone, but they are making good progress despite their small team. Dillo works as Browser for sites without js, SMS works well, calls are possible, Bluetooth is missing but everything else pretty much works.

        Of course the 256MB RAM pose a heavy limit for todays apps. You have to choose ones which use it sparingly. E.g. mupdf, gnumeric instead of libreoffice and so on.

        But its awesome for mobile ssh and, little games like SNES ones. I am starting to use it as second phone.

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    Welcome to serenity in the middle of the storm. Isn’t it great at first boot after install where you only have a clean canvas with a couple of apps and absolutely no bloat?

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    Welcome to the fold!

    Just a heads up, GOS doesn’t recommend the F-droid app as apparently there’s some security concerns. SideOfBurritos on YouTube talks more about it. An app like Droidify or Neo Store would be better and still uses the same F-Droid repositories. I use and really like Obtanium which allows you to download and manage apps directly from their websites, GitHub, F-Droid, & more.

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    Welcome ! Quick tip: Google has a database of cell towers that helps getting a location quickly and helps starting the GPS connection even indoors.

    You don’t have that on GOS. So when you use localization with organic maps, you’ll notice it struggle to find you. You have to have a clear view to the sky to get a ping and then you can use it inside your car for example.

    I also use https://github.com/barbeau/gpstest to get the ping more quickly.

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      GrapheneOS has some services of its own that improve location speed and accuracy when enabled: SUPL and PSDS. They’re both implemented in ways that try to preserve privacy. See here for more info:

      https://grapheneos.org/faq#default-connections

      With these enabled, it’s usually quick to get your precise location.

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        I have both enabled but still difficult to get a ping without a clear view to the sky. I will try network location though.

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      You can improve a coverage alternative with one of the many apps which discover and upload cell towers to Beacon DB.

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    i am very stupid when it comes to phones… how can I wipe android and install graphenous. I will buy a new chip/SIM for my last phone to test/see how it works. Reveal your magic please. I just want a basic phone (text, call, maybe even a map/weather app and like a note app). I can use cash money or bank cards for paying for stuff- don’t need an app/service for that, perfectly capable as an adult to manage paying for shit without an electronic device.

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      You need to get a Google Pixel, then go to the GrapheneOS web installer on your PC and follow the instructions.

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      Just go to the grapheneOS website and it will walk you through it.

      I have a medium competency with this kind of thing and the actual install was shockingly easy. Took about 15 mins.

      You just change a couple of settings on your phone (it walks you through everything), plug it in and then press some buttons in sequence on their site.

      Just make sure you back up everything you need from the phone first.

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    Next step, compile lineage for your Galaxy S3 from 2012 and use it to watch movies

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    I just got a Pixel 9 last week and put GrapheneOS on it. Couldn’t be happier with it so far. The install was completely painless using web installer. All my apps worked out of the box. Google Store works fine in the sandbox. UX is good, and you don’t have any of the crap Google normally loads like all the adaptive services, and all the other junk that runs in the background.

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    You can always add widgets if you want something to break up the gridded icons. 🫡 Welcome to the fam.