- cross-posted to:
- privacy@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- privacy@lemmy.world
Per the very first reply on their thread discussing it in their forums, which I linked directly to for the post title:
We’ll NEVER require any verification or identification from the user.
However, what’s gonna happen should the attempts to age-gate the XDG portal screw over alt-init distros like Artix too? My guess is maybe they start blocking regions which force age gating like Arch Linux 32 is doing.
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Good, Maybe a list of “Pirate Distros” would help people.
Kinda crazy how downloading Linux isos might actually become illegal.
What a fucking clown world we live in.
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Kinda crazy how downloading Linux isos might actually become illegal.
What a fucking clown world we live in.
Welcome to the world of open-source piracy if that happens.
Lol, which is funny as every torrent client gives the example of downloading Linux isos (which is probably for legality reasons)
Yep, that’s me, just Linux isos, I just like to collect 'em, y’know, and store them on a small 100TB NAS I can access from any
Plex clientcomputer in the house should I need them. You never know.
Artix is patching many packages anyway, so one more package patched to remove age stuff or add a dummy interface that always returns 18+ won’t be too difficult.
That’s what Ageless already does, so maybe Artix could implement that officially in their distro by what you’re suggesting?
In my mind, region-blocking is actually probably the best solution for this in every case.
Cut off every legitimate operation in these regions (including my own) from using your genuinely useful software. Software isn’t compromised, saves on unnecessary work and law compliance. Then everyone with a VPN flourishes anyway. And then maybe it hurts profits so much that lawmakers actually decide to reverse course. Wins all around.
In this case Artix already is a systemd-free distro, but this is part of why i think it’s a bad idea that systemd is wanting to implement the age verification crap, cause i think the distro should be allowed to decide if they want to comply or not. Feels like distros that use systemd will be forced to comply unless they change init, which is probably a pain in of itself.
Btw, what does the desktop portal actually do? I’ve installed a lot of programs over the years, including flatpaks, and i never seemed to need it. I hope it stays that way considering they’re implementing this shit too.
In this case Artix already is a systemd-free distro, but this is part of why i think it’s a bad idea that systemd is wanting to implement the age verification crap, cause i think the distro should be allowed to decide if they want to comply or not. Feels like distros that use systemd will be forced to comply unless they change init, which is probably a pain in of itself.
Where do I install an Ageless-style patch to force flagrant non-compliance for systemd distros?
We’ll NEVER require any verification or identification from the user.
This sentence doesn’t give me confidence that they have read the law.
You can not comply with laws. Its how all piracy sites and most social media sites work
The law definitely doesn’t require OSes to require users to verify their age or identity themselves.
At least one of the laws made the OS responsible if the determined age is not correct, meaning if you don’t verify the age you may still be commiting a crime, even if it is not required
The Californian bill doesn’t. If you have knowledge to the contrary please provide.
I am confused on what you are trying to say, English isn’t my native language. Could you say what exactly the point of your comments is?
I’m saying that “We’ll NEVER require any verification or identification from the user.” can be true even when they comply with the Californian bill.
Ah, I understand now. That is AFAIK correct, however complienace with the New York bill will be impossible:
New York’s proposed Senate Bill S8102A requires adults to prove they’re adults to use a computer, exercise bike, smart watch, or car if the device is internet enabled with app ecosystems. The bill explicitly forbids self-reporting and leaves the allowed methods to regulations written by the Attorney General.
