One advantage as I understand it between a worker cooperative and an ESOP is that the worker cooperative has a one person one vote system. It avoids the issue you mention about not having voting shares. I worked at a place with an ESOP and just the managers had shares. And even there they didn’t prevent the business being sold to private equity. Sure they got paid out but now that previously family owned business is part of a monopoly in our industry.

Lol spending hours and days is correct but for me it was spent on trying to get the signal from your interface to actually reach the program and then figure out why there’s so much latency.

Nothing because I would punch the nerd bookseller and take the book rather than answer a riddle

Yeah that’s pretty dystopian. Something worse hasn’t been done with it probably just because many bad actors haven’t been aware its an option.

Very satisfying

I’m in sales and have seen the strategy discussed where if you’re trying to sell a product to an institution with a formal bidding process to coach your contact to draw up requirements which only your product can meet.

Total bullshit in multiple dimensions and it should never even be considered. That said, as a former bible student turned atheist, if they’re going to have bibles in school a good option would be NRSV, or the funny option would be The Cotton Patch bible.

If you run your own server (like a country would in this case) you’re the one deciding whether things are allowed to be posted. Of course that doesn’t stop other people from blocking you. But the whole idea is as a sovereign country a private corporation shouldn’t have a say over which posts are seen.

I’ve seen a few people shit talk discord without expanding, so I will: it’s a proprietary “public space” that’s not web searchable. I don’t mind something like a community/subreddit oriented around a physical place, but I try to avoid supporting spaces that are owned by private capital. Of course that’s nearly impossible, but there are degrees of enclosure.

But I don’t want my devices to be bombs

I wouldn’t be surprised if there was something there, but that’s different than a fact.

So people who don’t live in swing states should vote third party until there’s enough of them that the state is in danger of going to trump (or whoever)? If they’re successful at some point that’s a threat.

How do we actually get third party candidates to win, not just “oh, Ross Perot Jr got 3% of the vote”?

However you slice it, we’re looking at like a 20 year struggle minimum to get election reform, and it would be at least the same length to elect a third party candidate to the office of president, but that’s a one off thing. (Or more likely that third party would be the new one of two parties)

If we’re committed to the struggle of improving things, we might as well improve a reusable process rather than have a single go at a third party presidential candidate.

Right, but do you have any evidence? Otherwise it’s just an accusation

“THE CHILDREN WILL BE SAVED!”

I didn’t take the image to be showing a macbook, it could just as easily be my computer or probably many others.

I like and use signal, but of course the problem is convincing someone else to start using it in order to send you a message.

Lol, all guns have zoom

I was thinking for now you need a ptz gun with a separate human controller from the human flight controller.

You’re right, doesn’t sound great. In the example they shared, sounds like the issue wasn’t that the car couldn’t drive around the fire truck, but that it couldn’t break a programming rule about crossing into a lane that would normally be opposing traffic. Once given the “ok” to follow such a route, the car handled it on its own, the human doesn’t actually drive it.

I could imagine a scenario where you need one human operator for every two vehicles. That’s still reducing labor by 50%.

Obviously they want it to be better than that, they want it to be one operator per ten vehicles or no operator at all.

And the fundamental problem with these systems is they will be owned by big corporations, and any gained efficiency will be consumed by the corporation, not enjoyed by the worker or passed on to the customer.

But I think there’s true value to be found there. Imagine a transportation cooperative - we’re a thousand households, we don’t all need our own car, but we need a car sometimes. We pool our resources and have a small fleet that minimizes our cost and environmental impact, and potentially drives more safely than human drivers.

It could be a career, or religion. For me I was planning to become a pastor, but then became an atheist. It really did throw me off. In my case I think I’m much happier than I would have been, but do kick myself because I could have been positioned much better if I wasn’t making plans in this other direction.