Interesting. I thought that was just in movies. lol

Ok, yeah I figured the same thing

That seems kinda fucked up. Why would you do something like that?

I mean, I at least get fucking with people for money. Doing it for fun, not so much

Also, anyone know what they meant with this line?

I still loved my life so I didn’t want to use the Google custom search API.

I mean, sure but Dems only really have a chance because Republicans continue to run the shuttiest candidates imaginable. That is absolutely true

Like, Obama won partly because McCain chose to run with Palin. It’s not the only reason he won, but it’s silly to think it wasn’t a major factor - especially considering everything we know about white American voters, that’s been made just as clear as it ever could be. I bet it was a tough decision for some/many Americans

I’ve always wished I could feel like the choice in a general election was a hard decision, but alas I’m working class and brown (and believe in science)

You’re definitely not wrong that hurting profits is good leverage. It might actually be the best tool we have

I don’t remember where I heard it recently, but we really need to bring back the slogan “no taxation without representation”

Millennials barely have representation and gen z has maybe one representative. The US was legit founded by mostly young people. It’s nuts to see the contrast to today. It’s not even exaggerating to say this nation hates it’s younger citizens

Edit: grammars

Would that work for literally anything we/nations use government for though?

“The government won’t prevent companies polluting the environment, so just assume it’s every individual citizen’s responsibility” “the gov won’t ensure food is safe to eat, so just follow these tiktok channels because it’s ultimately your responsibility to know what companies are putting in the food you eat” or “the gov won’t protect consumers from unfair business practices so just don’t support companies that are have a monopoly in your area” (this last one clearly ain’t working and consumers clearly can’t do anything; thinking of Comcast or Ticketmaster here). Personally, I think the EPA, FDA and antitrust laws are as necessary as any other basic laws (along with people to enforce those laws).

People making the claim that we don’t need government intervention, or saying private citizens should be held responsible, for government-sanctioned practices are either delusional/willfully ignorant or fake actors trying to shift responsibility from the government which literally has the power to enact legislation.

Imo, the biggest responsibility citizens have is to hold their government accountable. Most Americans legit think all politicians are evil and stupid which really just goes to show that they can’t tell the difference between someone trying to fight for companies to pay fair overtime/holiday pay and someone fighting for us to invest in another war err I mean defense

Wow, fuck it. Choose to learn nothing. What an insanely irrational take

I’m genuinely glad the people I disagree with are able to come around and accept reality and admit they were wrong. I legit applaud y’all!

That said, for the love of god, please take a moment to assess why you came to that incorrect conclusion, purge yourself of any pundits in your feed that were confident in their now clear lies (saying there was no way Biden would drop out), and seek out those that correctly predicted what has happened.

For example, the people in this clip saying Biden would be the nominee. If I was on the fence with listening to any of them before, I’d absolutely never consider anything they say about politics ever again without a clear apology and explanation of how they messed up and their plan to improve going forward. At worst they’re liars and at best they’re not good at informing us.

The easier thing is to just go look for people that were right about something. One big example, for me, is Michael Moore being right about the 2020 election. He said Trump could win and was ridiculed on corporate news networks.

Gotta admit, it’s interesting how I specifically mentioned politicians and media networks and you responded by alluding to a vague “government” entity that seemingly acts on its own.

In my mind, the government is just a name for the politicians people elected. It’s like saying corporations seek profit like they have feelings and desires or something, and not like they’re falling explicit laws and instructions set forth by politicians, which again are human beings that we’ve specifically elected.

That said, at least you answered my question, albeit without ever actually considering it

Dude, I don’t think you understood my comment.

If politicians/corporate media came out and said, it’s unfortunate but there’s too much money, power, assets on the line, we have to let Israel’ genocide continue and we have to continue to support them for X, Y, and Z reason I’d actually feel respected.

My understanding is that those groups have regularly dismissed any evidence that the genocide is happening, they’ve claimed protests by student and university faculty are stupid and due to them being brainwashed, and most-improtantly they’ve claimed anyone that doesn’t support Israel hates Jews.

Can you please respond with a slightly better understanding of my comment? Please ask if something’s not clear.

Do you even care how their lies erode the trust Americans could/should have in there leaders and institutions?

I want to agree with you. I’d be with you if you’d at least mentioned the impact this has on actual American citizens.

My understanding is plenty of people have been silenced for expressing their support for Palestine. I mean, hasn’t Congress literally proposed/passed bills saying they can’t even talk about the number of people dying?

It’s fascinating how people are so eager to sweep it all under the rug Americans themselves are ignored just to protect Israel, and more importantly, to protect American politicians that refuse to even learn about the situation. That’s not even mentioning the absolute infuriating trash that passes as corporate news nowadays (including anything pushed to the masses by large social media publishers). It’s like in order to protect Israel… err I mean, stop caring about this issue because it makes us uncomfortable, we’re entirely willing to allow news organizations to be straight-up propaganda, feeding blatant misinformation. It’s weird how we have zero criticism for them because that might invite someone to mention Gaza

What in the world? Lol. Is it all assumptions with you?

Tbh, I just thought you were being a dick. Didn’t realize you were a trump supporter, or whatever but I guess it tracks

we’re all waiting for your reply to that well-written response

don’t forget to thank them for informing you where other media seemingly failed. you could also apologize for making your angry, disrespectful comment in response to theirs when it didn’t need to be

Uh I think they’re just doing it for monies, dude

I definitely think it’s possible he could be either. The bit about guns is mainly because guns is one of their things. Some Republicans love guns more than anything.

Either way, I’m mostly impressed at how quickly those facts became the most important bits of information. I guess it makes sense though. I’m just glad he’s white and not brown. lol

Fair enough, I guess I didn’t account for the pandemic’s impact on stock ownership. I should’ve said almost most Americans don’t own stocks. I mean, your own sources show it was just about half of Americans for a while until recently.

Also, I hate considering 401ks as part of that since it’s not like people have a choice there. it’s just a cop out to sell out the nation to corporations via tax cuts and reduced regulations. My main premise is moreso that the economy is great if you’re a corporation or have a good job/are ready to retire

Source?

What does “the economy” mean again? Is that just referencing the stock market which most Americans don’t care about because they don’t own stocks or have 401ks?

I mean, has anyone seen the prices of shit lately? It’s pretty fuckin insane. I can’t even imagine how most people make it work with kids and whatnot. Then again, all my working class friends that don’t have 401ks don’t actually vote anyway so maybe they just know their audience

I don’t think you’re allowed to badmouth Biden like that 'round these parts

“You’re either with us or you’re with the terrorists”

(I’m quoting Bush here for extra comedic/ironic effect)

Fair enough. I agree that that if it’s in her/biden’s name maybe normal campaign financing laws apply. That wasn’t what I was hearing, but I won’t pretend I looked into it in more detail.

That said, there are tons of ways to donate money from one party to another without breaking any laws - that’s kind of the whole problem we have. There’s no reason to think Harris keeps that money for her own campaign if we were in the scenario where we’re running a third person that isn’t either of them. It certainly isn’t a reason to end the discussion for getting us at least a fighting chance.

I understand how scary this is and how foreign the situation we’re in feels, but I don’t think the answer is necessarily to look for the safest option (especially if that means an old man with blatant dementia).

In a perfect world, we’d fill the streets and force them to put that money in a transparent account and use it to fund a candidate people actually support (one that support public financing of campaigns and all the end unnecessary spending and legalized bribery)

My bad, I typed up a whole response to you but apparently never sent it and now it’s gone. Here’s a brief reply

My criticism was about the claim that only Harris could use the campaign money. It’s ridiculous to think they wouldn’t support the DNC’s candidate. Besides that, there are tons PACs that can use the money they’ve received from donors for basically whatever they want.