Hubris isn’t malice, though.

I dunno man, at the point where internal polling is showing you losing in a total massacre and your response is to double down and insist that you’re the best candidate, that’s some Greek tragedy level hubris.

And unfortunately, we’re the ones who’re going to be mourning the consequences.

Nah, no worries, I figured by your tone you weren’t downvoting the original comment. It’s fine anyway, my comment has several reasons for people to legitimately object to it.

I shared your opinion early on, but when it came out that internal polling was showing Biden a massacre long before calls for him to drop out had become mainstream, it becomes clearer that it is at the very least immense hubris which led him forward rather than a rational-if-misguided estimation of his chances of victory.

Man, I’m usually one of the people on Lemmy who is, at least, defending that the Dems are not the core problem. I’m very vocal that the failure of the 2024 election was fundamentally a failure of the American people, wherein 1/3 of the country voted for fascism and 1/3 said they didn’t fucking care.

But we lost by a small margin, and Biden choosing to stay in until it was clear that he could not command the confidence of the party - which was past the point when a primary could have been reasonably held - contributed no small amount to fucking us.

I wish I had well-wishes to give. But Biden losing the republic because of his own hubris makes it difficult to care what trials and suffering lay in his future.

Centrists insisted that his critics were all Russians who would be gone as soon as the election was over.

Again, you’re proving that your low level of reading comprehension has been consistent these past few months, but not much else, considering that’s not even close to what was being said.

Yeah, that’s about the reading comprehension I suspected you were working with in our interactions a couple months ago.

Because they’re so goddamn certain they can just wait it out and everything will return to normal. The newspapers will praise them. The Republicans will be contrite. They’ll be at the head of a new mythology of suffering-martyrs who made it out the other side to be the shining beacons of civility for the next era of statesmen. “Even when I was attacked, I didn’t strike back out of wrath or vengeance ^.” they imagine themselves saying, to a crowd waving their photo and naming awards for peaceful and cooperative success after them - or at least selling absurd numbers of their memoirs.

They can’t imagine that they’ll be remembered like those who appointed Petain in Bordeaux.

Hell, maybe they’re too dull to even imagine that anything that hasn’t already and literally happened to them will happen to them, I don’t know; I’ve known plenty of voters like that, so why not reps too? “I didn’t die last time so it won’t happen next time either!” Like people whose cancer goes into remission and take up smoking again.

They fought, they just fought according to the ‘rules’ of the game. They were playing baseball while the GOP was playing “Beat the ref and crowd to death and take their wallets”.

They’re so goddamn certain that the newspapers tomorrow will praise their sportsmanship against such a terrible foe, and talk about how they ‘deserved’ to win, since that’s how it worked in the Good Ol’ Days™.

In reality, what newspapers aren’t themselves intimidated by the thugs with aluminum bats will be lambasting the Dems for playing stupid fucking games while a massacre went on.

To the Dem thinking, everyone will lock arms and sing kumbaya and the next game will be totally aboveboard because people will be watching extra close for unsportsmanlike behavior. And hell - if it doesn’t work out like that, it’s not like the Dem players will be beaten to death - isn’t the GOP just going after refs and the crowd? The Dem reps feel safe enough to gamble with our lives as many times as it suits their civility obsession to do so.

Knowing that the GOP is both stupid enough and malicious enough to target these oh-so-civil-Dems in the coming years is scant comfort, but at least I’ll have plenty of folk to spit on when everyone is waiting in line for the gas chambers.

Good. Play hardball with the stupid orange fuck. If he wants to play transactional games, then it’s only fair that other countries negotiate with him in the same manner.

But think of how NOBLY the Dems have lost the Republic! Completely polite and norm-abiding as what remains of our democracy is torn to shreds and pissed on!

Unfortunately, the American people did.

Once you learn how to survive, the deep end is best learned by trial and error!

The mistakes of the Harris campaign are not the fault of the non-voters.

The fact that voters didn’t turn out to vote against literal and clearly fucking stated fascism is the fault of the non-voters.

It would make a lot of legislators considering their budgets for the coming year very happy, I would presume. Probably also a bunch of unintended side effects, possible weakening of the dollar, diplomatic uproar from states we didn’t forgive the debts of, worsening situation of our own budget, etc.

Let’s cancel all our EU debts while we’re at it. And of any of our allies in Latin America. And Asia. And Africa. Hell, just keep the debts held by our enemies and rivals.

Normally I would be against such reckless policy, but fuck it, we have reckless policy incoming, we might as well get something good in along with the shit we’re about to get shoveled into our mouths.

Zelensky, God love him, is trying to appeal to Trump’s ego, but I don’t think it’ll be successful. Trump simply enjoys sucking Putin’s cock too much.

“Ukraine must meekly submit to genocide, while Russia is allowed to use all tools at their disposal in pursuit of genociding Ukrainians.”

10/10, average ‘pacifist’

“I feel you are both outsiders compared to the rest of DC, and less ‘establishment’,” said one. Another, “both of you push boundaries and force growth”. And: “It’s real simple … Trump and you care for the working class.”

“You are focused on the real issues people care about. Similar to Trump populism in some ways,” said a fourth. Lastly, a respondent said: “You signaled change. Trump signified change. I’ve said lately, Trump sounds more like you.”

Utterly brilliant. Complete geniuses with a firm grasp on current politics. I see why you count these as intellectual kin.