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  • I’m on the internet a lot, especially around lemmy, and I have yet to find anyone who is suggesting it is a good idea to vote 3rd party. There is just a bunch of people that take any sign of someone not absolutely loving biden as “Both Sides BS”. I think it must be all these drama queen biden cult followers that make it seem like there is this evil “both sides” boogeymen running around, but thats just their reactions, not something that’s actually happening. I don’t know why really, like is it just that people care about getting upvotes so they are all just trying to read the room and play along? I’ve no idea. It’s just so dumb that it requires so much pushing to get people to actually feel like they are safe to speak their mind on him.


  • Wow. Finally, someone can admit that Biden is also an awful choice(just a less awful choice). It’s not so hard to actually speak your mind. Now, if you were to do this at the beginning of a thread, when people would actually see it, you would be ripped to pieces. That’s the problem.

    The issue is that people are so fucking scared to mention Biden’s ineptitude around here, that so many morons start to actually believe that other people see him as a good president. It is such a breath of fresh air to finally see someone admit this. Thank you so much, hopefully more people start to be willing to say this stuff straight out of the gate. It’s so frustrating to be one of so few that are willing to say that hating one doesn’t have to mean loving the other.

    If you don’t believe me, then try it out in a fresh thread. Mention how awful Biden is(yet still the best choice), and watch the idiot hive mind swoop in on you.

    Thanks so much, I really appreciate the help with the voice of reason. By the way, this “real world”/“it has to be this way” stuff is just a thing some places, it’s not a given for all human politics. The more people are willing to do what you just did, the more it moves the conversation to a place where maybe we can start to make real progress away from feeling doomed to a shitty system we all hate.

    Good on you!


  • Your reading compression is very bad. I don’t even know what you are taking as me admitting that I was wrong about. Maybe I did, I don’t know, I don’t see change of opinions as something to be ashamed of. I’m not surprised that you see that as a bad thing or as a way to try to attack someone.

    Even outside of politics, the realisation that you can be something other than 100%/0% on views in general, will help you tremendously at being able to get a more realistic view of the world. I understand that it can seem simpler to just go all in on things, but simpler isn’t always better.



  • Ya know what, I bet he would have done a worse job. Believe it or not, it is possible for someone to simultaneously not like multiple options. I know, crazy, right? This is what you have to look forward to if you ever start thinking for yourself, you’ll be able to actually have a nuanced point of view. It’s unlikely that you will though, because first you’re going to have to confront the fact that maybe you and your team aren’t always perfect.




  • Yes, the trumpers are technically more far gone than the biddeners, but not dramatically more far gone. Not when you consider just how deteriorated biden is. Nobody ever quotes biden. Nobody ever points to inspirational speeches or actions. Everyone who has been paying attention has seen him spew long, multi-sentence, incoherent word vomits. These are not accidental fumbles, it is absolutely “we need to get grandpa to a doctor asap”, the man is not well, we have ALL seen it. Repeatedly. The best they can do it try to find 5 minute clips where he manages to string together sentences that can actually be understood, let alone inspirational.

    Any rational person who feels they have to vote for their guy on either side, should be making absolute sure that their team knows how much it pains them to be doing so. By not doing this, and by quite frankly, doing the opposite, they are spreading the absurd signal that they actually think their guy is a good candidate. This does nothing but lower the expected standard even more.

    People like to talk about their duty, well their duty, if they have one, is to make sure everyone knows that this is so messed up. What do they do instead? They either silently downvote, they make up absurd “both sides” defenses that make no sense, or they just tell you how much you love trump if they catch any whiff of a side-eye towards biden. Then very rarely, after much teeth-pulling, you might get someone that admits they aren’t absolitely thrilled about having a moldy wrinkled pillowcase flying the airplane.



  • I appreciate you taking the time to write that. I think there has been some confusion. Clearly, they have differences as candidates. I have yet to see anyone claim otherwise. I was responding to a comment asking why the red players like the red team captain. I said it’s because that’s who was chosen as the red team captain and who they are told they are supposed to like. Then I went on to say that that is the same reason that the blue players like the blue team captain, because that’s who the blue players are told to like.

    It may come as a surprise, but this is not how it used to be, and it’s not how it is everywhere. It used to be that people were excited when the team captain spoke. They were inspiring, the stired souls, their people loved them because of who they are, not because of who they are not. Now, we have degenerated to the point where the teams like their captain simply because they are told to and because “at least they are not as bad as the other team captain.”

    It is absolutely insane that saying this stuff gets a bunch of downvotes. This is not revolutionary. Both sides are convinced that if they don’t pretend that they think their guy is great, then that makes them a horrible team member. As a result, we have two groups of people that are both backing candidates that should absolutely be in assisted living, and both groups are acting like their candidates are fantastic. You got tricked, that’s fine, it happens, but the sooner everyone can admit that, the sooner we can get back to not arguing over which clown has the most human-like features.




  • The only people I’ve seen saying the “both sides are the same” line are the ones saying it’s not true in irrelevant situations. I’ve literally not come across anyone pretending like they are both the same. It is just that so many people are so embarrassed by their own candidate that that’s the only thing they can think of to say. It is awful that the best thing Biden supporters can find about Biden is that he isn’t Trump. That is pathetic.




  • Do you genuinely think you would vote for Biden if they told you to vote for someone else? Do you honestly, feel deep down, that you are choosing who you support so strongly? Is that truly your subjective experience? I’m genuinely curious.

    The idiocy here is too thick to spread on magma. They told you “you like biden” so you say “I like biden. Anyone who insults biden is an idiot. This was my own thought because I’m so smart.”. Guess what. They did that to the red team too, and it worked equally well on those morons. This isn’t a mystery. They just know you are an idiot. That’s all.