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It’s just… always been my main browser.

Babelfish was so impressive in its day. Felt like living in the future.

Hey have you ever been to https://www.neocities.org? It’s reminiscent of geocities and kind of cool.

:) yeah it was cool.

Sorry if I sounded disagreeable, I didn’t mean to be. I was just taking a trip down memory lane.

I have to admit if it comes to anything in my field I mostly find good content through discussion groups too.

But for me, in terms of personal interests and some other stuff, the 90s internet was full of static lists of links, even webrings etc. It was great because most people I knew irl who were my age weren’t online. I could only add people from other countries on Friendster because my flatmates refused to use it and my friends didn’t know what it was!

During that time, we would find interesting web pages through people and/or specific interests.

I beg to differ, during that time I found most of my interesting content through AltaVista and its weird cousin HastaLaVista, and aggregators like Portal of Evil (though, bad example, I seem to recall PoE was pretty much the same time as google).

Oh, sorry, yes I meant anywhere in the whole country but I don’t live in the US. I live in Aotearoa (a.k.a New Zealand).

I just mentioned it as it seemed close to what you are suggesting.

Bye, have a nice weekend!

Oh, yeah I know you wouldn’t. You’re in kind of a tricky situation but I think that spat over covid sort of tested boundaries for you.

I’m in Aotearoa, obviously we have a similar problem. Culturally we would go where you go, but on the other hand we didn’t follow the US into Iraq. China are by far our biggest trading partner, and also those of us with a long memory were disillusioned by how our allies treated us over the Rainbow Warrior terrorist attack so there’s probably not the same level of confidence.

That’s a fair point.

But we have got people to agree on everything from what is a fair defense against defamation, right through to the percentage of meat a product such as a meat pie has to contain in order for it to be able to be labelled “meat”.

Democratic consensus is something that gets built up and refined over time. We don’t try to invent it all in a single day.

I think you’re still confusing what you like in a government (e.g democracy) with what something has to do in order to qualify as a government.

Take a look at this report on education. If we look at a country like Mali the average child there has just two years of schooling and attendence even at primary/elementary school is very low.

It may not have a government that we like, but it still has a government.

Defamation, intellectual property, stalking/threats, harmful digital communications, false advertising, accurate declarations of food contents, protected names, conspiracy to commit serious crimes: all these forms of speech are regulated by law and the judiciary where I live, so I have no problem with hate speech laws as long as they are clear and reasonable.

Personally I am in favour of proportionally representative democracy with a lot of checks and balances to enshrine human rights in law, so that if a populace wavers toward the hateful there are still protections for minorities and the non-hateful.

I think you’re misunderstanding the person you’re talking to. They are just saying that anything that can’t do those 3 things is not a government.

A lot of advertising still works on association and suggestion. That industry was heavily influenced by Freuds son in law.

Juxtaposition is a type of association.

I’ve never heard of them either.

It is a tempting proposition to let the state handle hateful speech, but we don’t have to look much further than Florida to see what happens when the shit side is in power

You seem to be suggesting that separating hate speech prevention from legislation will protect you from a “tyranny of the majority” situation.

But if the populace has a bigoted plurality, won’t that also create a tyranny of the majority?

China’s still one of your major trading partners, though.

It does. I think what he really means though is an international group of spin doctors who mobilise nationalist sentiments.

Probably in service to Disaster Capitalism.

are usually Nazis

Er, I think that might depend on who you are talking to the most.

Close. He changed his name to a symbol. It was probably to get out of a recording contract, but the particular symbol he chose was non printable.

Prince changed his name to an unprinteable character so they had no choice.

As I recall, some of the media used the short form TAFKAP (the artist formerly known as Prince).

As for xtwitter, I vote for FKT. Pronounced as a word.

I agree with this. I’m curious too, so in my naive youth in the 90s I did things like reply to scammers, invite JWs in to tell me about their religion, and even let a scientologist try to audit me.

Nothing bad happened because I was curious about them, but not relying on them to give me the answers.