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If you read the article, it’s talking about a 2-year anniversary of some deliberation made by UN, not about any new evidence of anything. There’s a claim of “hundreds of thousands still remain wrongfully imprisoned”, but I beg you to find a source for that because the article doesn’t provide any… because it’s not true. The focus of the article is “there’s been no punishment yet on any Chinese officials, and the laws are still in place”. No (sourced) metrics of people suffering any abuses, nothing, just a general condemnation without evidence. Did you even read it?

Not “downvoted me”, I’m not the original commenter. Saying “you’re disagreeing with the OC without bringing any actual arguments” isn’t ad-hominem.

Calling someone a fucking stupid kid, is.

Did you not read my comment? Uyghur were previously exempted from single-child policy, “forced sterilisation claims” (stemming from anecdotal interviews as I said, as well as biased statistical analysis by Adrian Zenz, notoriously impartial co-founder of the “Victims of Communism Memorial Association”, in the first article presented as an “expert in Chinese affairs”), there were some changes about the legislation of single child policy and Uyghur in the late 2010s. In the very article you can see how prior to that, birthrates in Xinjiang were above those in the rest of China for the past decades.

The second article talks about the (now closed for years) re-education camps that weren’t hidden by anybody, and were part of a counter-terrorism campaign, consequence of the hundreds of deaths to terrorism, which have finally ceased to happen.

Both articles are from 2020, because the reeducation program and counter-terrorism policy have been successful and no such measures as reeducation camps are in use. You simply will NOT find evidence of any of your claims post-2021. Because, as I said, there is no ongoing genocide in Xinjiang. You can make a compelling complaint about police state regarding the reeducation camps, you can disagree with the single child policy being applied to Uyghurs, but claiming that any of that is genocide, is an actual insult to people suffering real genocide, like Palestinians in Gaza.

Please, evidence from 2022 onwards

I asked for metrics, you’re bringing words, do you see the problem?

How is “shut your stupid fucking mouth, kid” not a personal attack instead of attacking the substance of my arguments?

Wikipedia:

Ad hominem (Latin for ‘to the person’), short for argumentum ad hominem, refers to several types of arguments that are fallacious. Often nowadays this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than the substance of the argument itself

Ok, give me some metrics that explain why this is the most effective climate legislation please, other than Biden claiming so

So no metrics by which things are improving, gotcha.

There… are no metrics in the link you sent me… There’s “plans to reduce emissions by X year”, but no mention to progress so far. There’s “investment into carbon capture and sequestration” (famously known to not work) but no metric. There’s “a pause in the approvals for new natural gas projects” (but the ones approved keep opening up)…

Have you even read what you sent me?

Fuck you, ACTUAL genocide denier. Palestine will be free from the river to the sea. There’s no concern for Uyghurs and no evidence of mistreatment of any sorts since 2021, and I dare you to find anything other than anonymous interviews and other forms of anecdotal evidence.

Ok, can you please give me other metrics? How many nuclear plants have been built? How much has been invested into new rail infrastructure, whether for freight or for passengers? Have there been any new tariffs on the import of electric vehicles? Any regulation against single family housing, against car dependency, or against meat consumption?

Please, what metrics have improved, other than renewables being installed (at a much lower rate than in many countries)?

Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group

Exclusively anecdotic evidence

Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part

No evidence whatsoever, not even anecdotic. Look at the economic evolution of Xinjiang over time

Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group

Uyghur people were generally excluded from the single-child policy. By that logic, Han ethnics were genocided even more.

Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

Exclusively anecdotal evidence

Please, be more serious with genocide accusations. This is a serious case of “Nayirah’s testimony” all over again. Basing serious accusations of genocide against an ethnicity on isolated anecdotal evidence, most of it from anonymous interviews, is simply not enough in my opinion, especially when the claim comes against a geopolitical enemy of the USA.

All your sources are from 2021 or earlier, and there’s been absolutely no further evidence of anything you say. Reeducation camps (which the Chinese government recognised existed as part of a counter-terrorism initiative, and which existed for about 5 years) are closed, no more anecdotal evidence has popped up, and there’s no concerns anymore that there’s any genocide ongoing against Uyghur people.

If you’re concerned about prison population of a particular ethnicity, I highly recommend you look at incarceration rates of black people in the USA, which instead of being anecdotic and lasting 5-years, are a systemic issue that has existed for as long as the country has, and has no signs of stopping. I hope you don’t make the claim that the US is genociding black people?

Go on with the ad-hominem, still can’t answer. Blue MAGA indeed

The Dems aren’t making baby steps in the right direction, though, look up the progression of natural gas exports under Joe Biden. They’re actively making big steps in the wrong direction.

Israel, since Oct 7th, has murdered 40.000k people through direct, violent means, how many people died in the Uyghur “genocide”?

Downvoted by 14 people, no single answer

I fully agree with all you’re saying in your second paragraph. My whole point is that, historically, this sort of progress isn’t achieved by voting, but by organized worker action through unionizing and strikes.

That’s cool and all, but as I said, the post explicitly mentions the 60s, I don’t see how your smug input about Gen Z and whatever happened when you were in elementary school (30-40 years ago) relates to or adds value to the post that explicitly talks about the 60s.