Oh good, more stupid moral panic, exactly what we needed.
Kids have been watching plenty of brain melting videos before AI came along too.
If you want kid’s brains to stay nice and firm don’t let them be raised by a tablet.
We all know this yet the ones with kids who need to do something about it don’t, as a result kids are getting dumber by the year.
TV had a limited capacity to mess kids up and it largely didn’t. Youtube and the internet on then other hand are in the vast majority of kids pockets with 0 restrictions.
Reading the first hand reports of what this looks like from /r/teachers will black pill you on the future quicker than any post on climate change or war.
Part of me is glad that my continuing insistence that younger generations are dumber than I was at their age is not just me being an old man mad at kids for still having the youth that he squandered. A larger part of me is terrified at the prospect of a generation being continuously microdosed with levels of garbage entertainment and misinformation that would make George Orwell nauseous.
Agree. But also Covid
The recent rise in home-schooling, and anti-intellectualism probably aren’t helping much either, especially when you see things floating about here and there about how schools are hell-bent on brainwashing your children, and you should pull them out lest they be exposed to communism and the moral degradation of society or some such.
COVID does seem to be a part of it, but not all of it, since some of the data linked in the article shows a small decline in the scores before the pandemic and lockdowns. They could well have just exacerbated the underlying issues.
Seems a difficult these days. I saw my niece last year who was in kindergarten at the time, and she was given a tablet by her school where she did all her homework and homework related video games. She’s also recently started learning photoshop and she’s 6 now. The way humans interact with technology will always keep changing. Some bas, some good.
As an ECE worker, why the fuck is any kindergartener being given homework? What outdated paedegogy.
Shit an iPad is bad enough, but screen time can be limited and some use is fine, but homework‽
This title is shit. They’re YouTube videos, not LSD.
As long as they’re not watching brain-melting AI-Generated videos on Tik Tok.
Or human-generated brain melting content.
Lots of it about…
Im not a fan of AI content, but I wanna do a bit better than just old man yells at new thing. If the AI content was indistinguishable from human made there wouldnt be any outrage, how would we know? AI is distinguishable, and I think the main distinction is the lack of human goals in creating the content. AI is computer, it doesnt feel joy for creating, it doesnt have fun, it isnt trying to express itself, just mimicing expressions.
So Im watching some of these AI videos, and comparing to kids shows from before AI was a thing. It’s a lot of shared elements, and any given few seconds from the AI videos seems normal. But watching it scene to scene is bizarre. It’s really bad about continuity, and there’s no story whatsoever or any worldbuilding. Which you might not associate with kids shows, but they were present, just simplified along with everything else. Shows like Dora and Blues Clues had overarching quests for the characters every episode, a continuity of events to follow, and recurring elements to remember in the next episode. These are all good learning elements for developing brains I feel, Swiper shows up and that’s activating memories, he’s an obstacle to this continuity and needs dealing with, and how to deal with it was explained last time. The AI content Im seeing has none of this
Thats a very old generation of kids show, and they were somewhat educational.
Go back 2-3 years ago and watch the sort of mindless droll on YT, its human made but pure mindrot - zero plot, just sound effects, oddly paced scenes, bright catchy visuals, pop culture characters etc. This AI stuff cannot do any worse as we’d already turned children’s media into addictive algorithmic manipulation.
Im pretty sure all of that was AI too, at least algorithmic in some way. Like plugging in google trends as some twisted madlibs or something. That shit definitely wasn’t human either.
With the U.S. election cycle ramping up, it’s not just the kids doing it now.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
AI scammers are using generative tools to churn out bizarre and nonsensical YouTube kids’ videos, a troubling Wired report reveals.
The videos are often created in a style akin to that of the addictive hit YouTube and Netflix show Cocomelon, and are very rarely marked as AI-generated.
And as Wired notes, given the ubiquity and style of the content, a busy parent might not bat an eye if this AI-spun mush — much of which is already garnering millions of views and subscribers on YouTube — were playing in the background.
It’s also deeply unlikely that any of these mass-produced AI videos are being pushed out in consultation with childhood development experts, and if the goal is to make money through unmarked AI-generated fever dreams designed for consumption by media-illiterate toddlers, the “we’re helping them learn!”
Per Wired, researchers like Tufts University neuroscientist Eric Hoel are concerned about how this bleak combination of garbled AI content and prolonged screentime will ultimately impact today’s kids.
“All around the nation there are toddlers plunked down in front of iPads being subjected to synthetic runoff,” the scientist recently wrote on his Substack, The Intrinsic Perspective.
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I see this as a parenting failure, honestly. You’re not supposed to just let your kid watch whatever without supervision IMHO. If you can’t control what your kids watch, don’t give them iPads!
Supervision? All the time? Found the guy without kids.
Sure sure, you make a point. But kids are 24 god damn 7 and occasionally I need to do things like chores and cooking. They get tablets so I can survive. I did remove YouTube, but their school didn’t.
Weird how I managed to be a kid without tablets and my parents survived.
Weird how people didn’t need two or more full time jobs to afford a family back then too.
My parents both worked
And look how that turned out.
If you want to sing wheels on the bus with your kids for that five hour car ride, more power to you. You’re a stronger mind than I. My kids are getting tablets.
I think it worked perfectly. I have the perfect combination of self loathing and confidence to be a high earning professional who also believes that humans are wicked and should pursue our own extinction, so as to protect our non existent children from the inevitability of human suffering. Plus, my executive functioning is barely holding on even without early age screen time.
Also it leaves me lots of time to care for them as they age. Win win.
my executive functioning is barely holding on even without early age screen time.
I had a screen since I was 6 in the 80s. An apple 2e. It turns out that screens are great for calming autistic ADHD folks. It’s why many of us end up in IT. But I’m guessing it’s why my exec function isn’t horrible. Imagine living screen free all day??
Before tablets, parents didn’t survive.
When I have kids I will allow them to go on the Internet, but I will teach them about where to find good content and stuff like that.
They will ultimately have to learn how to do this anyway, so its better to teach them early.
And I dont want to completely block their internet access because their classmates will have it too and it sucks to be the only one who doesnt, you just dont fit in quite as well and arent able to talk about stuff from the internet if you dont know anything about it. (I am speaking from experience)
It’s funny yeah everyone knows exactly how to raise kids until they have their own.
My parents were obsessive never letting us watch anything violent, the only way you’d tell the difference between me and my buddy that watched them all is I do a little worse than most at pop culture pub quiz rounds. I really don’t think humans are as fragile as some people assume, playing on a tablet isn’t going to melt anyone’s brain.
Covid has shown me that a lot of parents shouldn’t be. During the period that everybody was stuck at home there was a large amount of people that found out that they don’t know, or want, to raise a child and couldn’t wait to get them to schools or activities just to get rid of them.
My ex used to say “you can’t be expected to give up your social life just because you have a child”. My kids and I are better off now.
This is a strange take. It’s okay to be a parent that wants alone time, or time away from their kids. It’s no different than wanting time alone from any family member. It doesn’t mean you don’t love them, it means you enjoy being with yourself and fulfilling your own wishes sometimes. I have a really hard time believing anyone who says they love to be around a toddler 24/7. It’s just not humanly possible.
My solution to not wanting to be around a toddler 24/7 is to not make a toddler in the first place.
Cool. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about then!
‘I’ve never flown a helicopter but if I saw one in a tree I’d be like “you fucked up”. that’s not supposed to be up there—that’s pilot error’.
-Steve HofstetterBad metaphor tho
Yes, children are truly a mystery. And very complex.
No, but parenting can be pretty complex and there is a large degree of variability child to child. The idea that you either are a psychotic helicopter parent (because there is really no other interpretation to demanding a parent be around their toddler 24/7) or simply should not have children is a gross oversimplification and also, more importantly, fuckinh prima facie dumb as shit.
“It takes a village to raise a child” is an old expression for a reason. Historically, parents wouldn’t take care of their kids 24/7. They would have parents, siblings, neighbours and friends to help share the load.
The idea that parents and parents alone do 100% of everything to raise a child is a very modern western thing.
We better adapt soon becuse the village is dead and it isn’t coming back.
Actually play groups and friend networks are pretty common now
For the families who can afford it, daycare is the replacement.
Where I live it’s literally cheaper to lease an electric car than it is to put a kid 5 days per week in daycare.
And you get crucified by them if you bring it up.
I understand battling the pull of phones and tablets with kids is hard but you’re lying to your self if you think it’s going to work out ok if you give in, every other kid has one how bad could it go really?
Yeah, keep them off YT and YT Kids. Jesus, the stupid brain melting human-made videos are worse enough as it is and kids love watching this shit over well-produced content. The only time I allow my kid to watch YT Kids is when I can watch too and it’s on my phone. Recently she started watching a video with an anamorphic cat that was pregnant with a Zombie baby. Of course, YT is the one that offered her this content to watch anyway.
If you don’t want to supervise what your kids watch, lock down their tablet or computer to only connect to streaming services you pay for. People are paid to produce this much higher quality content and then it is reviewed by people who know what should be acceptable for kids to watch. Compare this to some jackass on YouTube who can make the worst garbage imaginable, with or without the help of AI, and the YouTube algorithm is more than happy to shove it in your child’s face. Which would you prefer your child to watch?
Recently she started watching a video with an anamorphic cat that was pregnant with a Zombie baby.
The… what?
Anything’s better than Blippy
I like blippy , he’s wholesome and educational. I closely monitor what my son watches on YouTube. There is a lot of weird stuff on there. Paw patrol cartoons where they are either making weird sexual faces at each other or getting hurt and dying for example.
What exactly is a “weird sexual face”? Like are they mimicking a sex act or doing ahegao?
Like horny faces . I couldn’t find any good examples with a quick YouTube search but here’s some of the examples I did find
You ever see a YTP? There have been man-made brain melting videos on YouTube for years.
I’d argue YTP are better produced than what this article is talking about. I love absurdist humor, but this article is not talking about that. I’ve seen some stupid fucking shit get offered to my child to watch and would prefer her to watch YTPs instead. She’s banned from watching YouTube kids by herself.
BRAIN MELTING
Who writes these articles, right?
Anyway, where video link?
“We are all susceptible to the pull of viral ideas. Like mass hysteria. Or a tune that gets into your head that you keep humming all day until you spread it to someone else. Jokes. Urban legends. Crackpot religions. Marxism. No matter how smart we get, there is always this deep irrational part that makes us potential hosts for self-replicating information.” ― Neal Stephenson, Snow Crash
I refuse to read books or watch films that open with a lexical definition of the title.
I just don’t do that.
Ok, read 50 Shades then.
The book is excellent and predictive of so much tech culture to come out shortly after.
I am well aware of Neil Stephenson and his contemporaries. It’s still cringe opening your book with a lexical definition. It’s not very well written either, and a bit too comic bookey for me, but personally I didn’t read the thing of course.
You know someone’s anus it itchy when there’s that continuous 1 disapproving downvote.
Now I don’t know whose anus to scratch!
Who cares?
Exactly!
I meant about your preferences.
It’s a great book if you can get past that to the first line of the book.
I endured the first few chapters. If the first line represented my expectation of the book, then the rest confirmed it.
Far more worried about the ads than the AI generated videos tbh.
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My parents have been watching Brain Melting AI generated videos without me realising.
Seeing my mom watch a TTS voice read the top 6 blablabla was somewhat radicalising.
Shame on whoever pumps out this garbage.
Same except it’s some horrifying shit like “Ukranians are Nazis, Russians are liberators, the west has fallen, traditional values are being destroyed by woke-ism, gays are destroying America, stop being a low value male”, I could go on.
Watch Kyle Hill’s video on AI generated content, and the dark forest theory applies to the internet. The internet has become truly hostile today and now I seek to avoid it when I can.
I feel like I can still navigate through it because I did the previous levels but the difficulty is definitely higher.
We’re now on level 35 and n00bs are still coming online. A kid or grandma have no shot at defeating the boss AI video or deepfake on this level, hell I don’t even have a great win rate on them.
He says, on the internet.
No, no, the real problem is video games… and Dungeons & Dragons… and the mall of course… and comic books… and…
That god awful mary-wanny! That’s what’s doing it!
^(pay no attention to the THC vape in my hand, that doesn’t exist, no, it’s for “medical reasons.” That’s it!)
God, I want a THC vape. Had one once when I lost my job, apartment, roommate, etc, all at the same time.
I couldn’t afford my overpriced-yet-shitty $2,000 apartment, plus utilities, by myself on any of the jobs I found. There was nothing to do but wait for a couple of weeks for family to come pick me up, so I said screw it and got a THC vape pen. It was the most relaxing two weeks I’ve ever had.
The pen had a nice big cartridge of Charlotte’s Web. I used it A LOT. Woke up in the middle of the night at one point, still buzzed, and decided I should take a break from THC. I needed to sober up to handle adult crap, so I threw the thing away.
Proud of myself for not letting myself become and addict, even though I was high at the time. But still miss it.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!
We are ALL watching brain melting AI content without realizing!!
