Is this really a surprise since we ban them from using our tech. I wouldn’t want my tech to hinge on an other country that doesn’t want me to have the stronger than average stuff either tbh.
I want to have both tech of you in my country
None of the CPUs on that list contain Intel Management Engine. What gives China, you don’t want a CPU in your CPU?
Databases also make the list, and again nothing from Western devs made the cut. But Alibaba Cloud’s PolarDB is mentioned, as is Tencent’s TDSQL and a handful of other made-in-China efforts.
That’s a big one.
Unless Chinese firms have been straight-up stealing trade secrets and code from the likes of Oracle and have produced such a blatant knock-off of their software that in any other country, they would have been sued out of existence, I can see a five week transition being messy-as-fuck.
Transitions to new database systems take months or even years to implement, not the 5 weeks mandated by the Chinese Communist Party. This is especially the case when you’re dealing with important stakeholder data, huge data volumes and/or statutory requirements like financial reporting.
I mean, i get it. But i wish the world would just work together on everything and stop with the country bullshit. Imagine the stuff we could make if everyone worked together.
Brothers, brothers! We should be struggling together!
In a bizarre turn of events, it seems the reclusive nation of North Korea has finally succumbed to the intense chip envy brought on by China’s recent announcement of its approved CPU list. In an effort to keep pace with neighboring rivals, Kim Jong-un ordered the immediate development of a state-of-the-art microchip. And thus, ‘The Juche Chip’ was born - named after North Korea’s philosophy of self-reliance.
After months of hard work, North Korean engineers presented their masterpiece: a CPU so advanced, it can run MS-DOS smoothly on Windows ME. This revolutionary breakthrough in computing technology also boasts an impressive clock speed that’s roughly equivalent to the rate at which time moves inside a Pyongyang prison cell. With the Juche Chip, users will never have to worry about lagging, overheating or any other technical issues because their system will freeze before such problems could even arise.
Only Chinese code is present, namely [lists three linux distros]
Linus Torvalds: *clears throat*
China Huawei’ing Linux
Why are Rockchip, Allwinner and other Chinese companies allowed to sell their garbage in western countries?
Because open trade is a good thing?
Oh wait
Are PC prices about to surge without cheap Chinese knock offs available?
This might just be for government computers, not the entire country - see https://www.ft.com/content/7bf0f79b-dea7-49fa-8253-f678d5acd64a
Still, the overall direction and intent is clear.
understandible given how the Americans are treating Huawei.
Well they probably know what they put in the CPUs they export to the US and Europe, so why would they?
What bothers me is the kernel version. Only one OS is on Linux 5 while the rest are on Linux 4‽
A debian based dystopia, I like it
Seems like a continuation of the sad state of affairs for ARM chips. Most of the allowed chips are ARM based, and most companies making ARM chips never update their kernels
This is the best summary I could come up with:
AMD and Intel are not present on a list of processors approved by China’s Information Security Evaluation Center.
The x86 architecture does make the list, but only in chips made by Shanghai Zhaoxin Integrated Circuit Co., Ltd – which is minority-owned by Taiwan’s Via Technologies and holds a license to produce x86 processors.
The other approved chip shops make processors powered by Arm cores or, in the case of Loongson Technologies, the RISC-V architecture.
Second, the Financial Times found it over the weekend and reported that publication of the list accelerated efforts in China to replace Western tech and hardware with locally developed kit.
The FT chatted to some IT shops inside China and they confirmed that they’re phasing out items like PCs running Windows, because shop-at-home mandates have taken force.
Last week, authorities again called on web platforms to police more vigilantly the use of provocative typos and puns that can be construed as criticism of the Chinese Communist Party.
The original article contains 463 words, the summary contains 161 words. Saved 65%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
authorities again called on web platforms to police more vigilantly the use of provocative typos and puns that can be construed as criticism of the Chinese Communist Party.
Criticism? Jail. Puns? Jail. Spelling mistake? Believe it or not, jail. We have the highest literacy in the world. Because of jail.
Can’t even source their own chips. Need to buy from the real China, Taiwan.
China is a fucking joke.
Make RISC-V great again
Loongson is fully Chinese. Only the x86 chips have a Taiwan joint.
Yeah, only the most dominant, mature, and in-use instruction set.
When was the last time you ran a SPARC binary?
I was gonna say x64, but I just realized that that’s x86.
Anyways, none of these are SPARC either, and if they’re switching to another operating system, it seems logical for them to use ARM since Windows apps can’t run anyway
I’m all for critiquing China where it makes sense but this just seems like the same national security measures the West has taken in the past (Huawei 5G anyone?)
It’s also defacto mandating that their CCP approved Spyware chips are in place
Spyware chips are far more problematic than just using boring old software. Why bother when you can just bundle the spyware into your own Linux distro?
Yeah! Can’t they just get Apple and Microsoft to postpone updates for exploit those vulnerabilities? Oh wait…
Hi, Europeans! This is a careful reminder to use Linux. Step away from yankee companies.
You’re getting downvoted but you are right, from a security standpoint Europe’s infrastructure is dangerously reliant on an increasingly unpredictable USA. The status quo was fine while Europe and the US agreed on pretty much every foreign policy but it’s becoming increasingly clear that the two blocks are slowly drifting in different directions. Eventually Europe’s reliance on US IT will become a problem.
It’s more like US guarantees are symbolic, at best. It should be obvious that Europeans don’t have jurisdiction in the US, and vice versa.
With the stance the US has against anything foreign, it becomes increasingly impossible to trust both their government bodies - and their software industry.
Like when people travel to the US, I recommend they get a new cheap throwaway smartphone, because the second you’re land on that US airport, you’re forced to give up all it’s data. Heck, even US citizens proper aren’t safe from the TSA.
China bans Intel and AMD from government machines, the US blocked Huawei from the entirety of the US.
Unless I’m misreading the article Intel and AMD are banned for EVERYONE not just government.
That article is poorly written. This one is more informative. Since there’s a paywall, I’ll quote a few relevant parts:
"China has introduced new guidelines that will mean US microprocessors from Intel and AMD are phased out of government PCs and servers, as Beijing ramps up a campaign to replace foreign technology with homegrown solutions.
The stricter government procurement guidance also seeks to sideline Microsoft’s Windows operating system and foreign-made database software in favour of domestic options."
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"Officials have begun following the new PC, laptop and server guidelines this year, after they were unveiled with little fanfare by the finance ministry and the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) on December 26. They order government agencies and party organs above the township level to include criteria requiring “safe and reliable” processors and operating systems when making purchases. "
What is very impressive is that they can easily supply their government without CPUs from Intel and AMD. Chinese semiconductor industry has come far.
