During the 2022 midterms, Voces de la Frontera Action poured its resources into mobilizing support for Democrats at the ballot box, with volunteer members directly contacting nearly 30,000 voters in their network and reaching 30,000 more through phone-banking and door-knocking, according to the organization. In 2020, Voces supported Biden’s presidential run.
Now, the group has turned its efforts toward promoting the Uninstructed campaign with mailers, door-knocking and social media promotion.
You don’t have an issue with Biden calling immigrants “illegals”?
I have no problem with anything he said there, no; and if you do, I would say that you’re deliberately making an issue from nothing of substance, in very Republican fashion.
I have family who are undocumented, and yes, I do have an issue with what he said. They are not “illegals.” It betrays the same lack of caring that manifests in policy as Migrant children in open-air desert camps are suffering from hunger and hypothermia, court documents say and ‘No good options’: Biden admin has no plans to change how it treats Haitian migrants despite outrage from advocates. Replace “illegal” with any other pejorative ethnic term and maybe you’ll understand. It’s seriously not cool, which is why he walked it back later.
The Guardian wrote:
But u/mozz says it’s nothing, so I guess we just need to eat shit and shut up. At least Biden had the decency to admit he was wrong.
I’ve had friends who were undocumented. One was actually in and out of custody before the Obama-era immigration reforms came along; long story short he was able to stay in the country. I still remember talking with people about how to get up bail money to get him out, and him talking about a bunch of things about being in jail in a not-real-friendly part of the country.
I don’t believe you. I think you’re lying to justify your grandstanding. I already sent you a pretty long list of what Biden has done factually on immigration. Seizing on him quoting back to someone hateful, a hateful word that they used, in order to make a point back to them, and spending any amount of energy saying that means anything, is a bunch of bullshit. That’s actually one reason I don’t believe you – I’ve seen people in this community who take the viewpoint that all US politicians are basically the enemy with no particular reason to pick good ones or bad ones or get excited about this Fox News bullshit about any of them, and I’ve seen people who actually study in detail what’s going on factually, but doing this Judge Judy level determinations of who it is that’s good and bad on immigration policy and then getting all excited about it, I haven’t seen too much of except from outsiders to the community.
It’s not even like this is a random position only seen on Lemmy from perpetual detractors. The person you’re responding to literally gave you quotes from Latino public figures and advocacy organizations. But yeah, your
blackundocumented friend totally makes you a convincing authority on which immigrant rights positions are coming from the community.I make no claim to authority; I’m explaining what I think and why, including why I think juicy is lying. Maybe my experience with probably-shills has made me jaded but that’s what I think.
You’re obviously within your rights to think that Ramirez, Chuy García, or the Immigrant Justice Center are right and I am wrong about why Biden said “illegal”. I think the transcript speaks for itself and I think they’re being foolish and self-defeating if they’re falling into the trap of attacking him over it.
It’s not a matter of whether they’re right, it’s a direct contradiction to your insinuation that this is a fake sentiment coming from “outside the community”. And those weren’t even the Latino only congressmembers who objected to it.
Maybe cool off on the “he’s lying” when you’re trying to claim that a pretty well recognized anger over a Democratic president adopting conservative framing and policy for the border is astroturfing using “I had a friend” as your justification.