Democrats are hoping to make abortion a pivotal issue against the GOP’s prohibitive presidential nominee, especially in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and other key swing states. They also believe it will sway key congressional races.
Now if only anyone could trust a single thing he said or believe this was true…
With the caption “he’s lying again.” Sticking your head in the sand and copying the ministry of magic’s approach after the triwizard cup isn’t going to help anything. Trying to “ban” misinformation just leads to lies on both sides. Reading both sides yourself and knowing what parts are true and lies allows you to correctly argue it to others.
Trying to “ban” misinformation just leads to lies on both sides.
Explain how. Also, show me where I ever called for a “ban on misinformation”. Nice strawman, though.
Sticking your head in the sand and copying the ministry of magic’s approach after the triwizard cup isn’t going to help anything
So now you’re attacking me personally because I called you out for intentionally spreading false information— and all you have is some “both sides” nonsense claiming - without evidence - that, unless you get to spread Trump’s claims as facts… what, “the other side” will suddenly start doing it too? Lmao
Reading both sides yourself and knowing what parts are true and lies allows you to correctly argue it to others.
That’s not the same as spreading lies as truth, which is what you are doing.
Attacking people for posting or discussing something, even in a negative light, because you disagree with it is literally the definition of a “misinformation ban.” When you do this you don’t rid the world of that information, you force both extremes to retreat their own echo chambers and make the divide even worse. Just because you agree with your own echo chamber doesn’t mean you can force it on others by shouting down anyone you disagree with (or sometimes agree with like in this scenario). All that does is make people ignore you and think you’re an asshole. The only way to actually convince those in the middle is to understand both sides and explain why yours is right. If people think shouting down and banning other thoughts are your only tools they assume you’re a tool with no actual substance behind your reasoning.
You’re intentionally presenting Trump’s obvious lies as fact. You didn’t link to an article which criticizes his lying or an article debunking his lies— you presented the actual article - from a known questionable, alt-right outlet - as fact. You are complicit in spreading the lie. And I called you out on that.
Whining that “oh I’m just starting a conversion,” and claiming both-sides nonsense is a transparent and feeble attempt to backtrack and excuse your actions, and nobody’s buying it. Because it’s ridiculous.
Oh, and complaining about being personally attacked while then calling me and “asshole” and a “tool” is the exact type of hypocrisy I’d expect from a Trump fan. My criticism of you for knowingly spreading lies isn’t a personal attack, and that bad feeling you have when you read this is called “shame”.
I literally added a caption saying it was lies, or didn’t you see that. You’re the one shouting down anyone who doesn’t agree with you. I do not believe a word Trump says, I do not support him and I don’t agree with what is in the article. But reading and discussing what he does say is valid to the conversation. Only tolerating 3rd party discussion about what he said and avoiding the actual first party sources just makes people who agree with you smug and everyone else think you’re hiding something.
Yeah, yeah, you put some fine print on your poison pill. How noble of you.
That changes nothing other than admitting that you knew what you posted was a lie, yet posted it anyway. Once again: you didn’t post an article about Trump lying, you just posted the lie, spreading it further.
And your straw man about “tolerating discussion” isn’t going to fly, either. People discuss all sorts of things and viewpoints in this community— posting fake news from sources known to be unreliable and biased isn’t tolerated.
And continuing to call me names like “smug” just because you don’t like the consequences is, again, hypocritical. If you don’t like being criticized for posting lies as fact, then stop doing it.
I posted a truthfully presented article about a statement made by a known liar and pointed out that he can’t be trusted. Meanwhile, you literally just called me a Trump supporter which just goes to show how ignorant you have become by aggressively applying blinders to your entire world view while attempting to do so to others. I am not, and have never been a Trump supporter. I am a conservative leaning moderate, Trump is neither conservative nor is he moderate; he has never been either of these things in his entire life so why would I support him. If you read anything other than curated and spoon fed takes that tell you only what you wanted to hear you might actually be able to articulate an argument to someone who disagrees with you.
Knowing lies as one thing. You are actively and knowingly spreading them.
With the caption “he’s lying again.” Sticking your head in the sand and copying the ministry of magic’s approach after the triwizard cup isn’t going to help anything. Trying to “ban” misinformation just leads to lies on both sides. Reading both sides yourself and knowing what parts are true and lies allows you to correctly argue it to others.
Explain how. Also, show me where I ever called for a “ban on misinformation”. Nice strawman, though.
So now you’re attacking me personally because I called you out for intentionally spreading false information— and all you have is some “both sides” nonsense claiming - without evidence - that, unless you get to spread Trump’s claims as facts… what, “the other side” will suddenly start doing it too? Lmao
That’s not the same as spreading lies as truth, which is what you are doing.
Attacking people for posting or discussing something, even in a negative light, because you disagree with it is literally the definition of a “misinformation ban.” When you do this you don’t rid the world of that information, you force both extremes to retreat their own echo chambers and make the divide even worse. Just because you agree with your own echo chamber doesn’t mean you can force it on others by shouting down anyone you disagree with (or sometimes agree with like in this scenario). All that does is make people ignore you and think you’re an asshole. The only way to actually convince those in the middle is to understand both sides and explain why yours is right. If people think shouting down and banning other thoughts are your only tools they assume you’re a tool with no actual substance behind your reasoning.
You’re intentionally presenting Trump’s obvious lies as fact. You didn’t link to an article which criticizes his lying or an article debunking his lies— you presented the actual article - from a known questionable, alt-right outlet - as fact. You are complicit in spreading the lie. And I called you out on that.
Whining that “oh I’m just starting a conversion,” and claiming both-sides nonsense is a transparent and feeble attempt to backtrack and excuse your actions, and nobody’s buying it. Because it’s ridiculous.
Oh, and complaining about being personally attacked while then calling me and “asshole” and a “tool” is the exact type of hypocrisy I’d expect from a Trump fan. My criticism of you for knowingly spreading lies isn’t a personal attack, and that bad feeling you have when you read this is called “shame”.
I literally added a caption saying it was lies, or didn’t you see that. You’re the one shouting down anyone who doesn’t agree with you. I do not believe a word Trump says, I do not support him and I don’t agree with what is in the article. But reading and discussing what he does say is valid to the conversation. Only tolerating 3rd party discussion about what he said and avoiding the actual first party sources just makes people who agree with you smug and everyone else think you’re hiding something.
Yeah, yeah, you put some fine print on your poison pill. How noble of you.
That changes nothing other than admitting that you knew what you posted was a lie, yet posted it anyway. Once again: you didn’t post an article about Trump lying, you just posted the lie, spreading it further.
And your straw man about “tolerating discussion” isn’t going to fly, either. People discuss all sorts of things and viewpoints in this community— posting fake news from sources known to be unreliable and biased isn’t tolerated.
And continuing to call me names like “smug” just because you don’t like the consequences is, again, hypocritical. If you don’t like being criticized for posting lies as fact, then stop doing it.
I posted a truthfully presented article about a statement made by a known liar and pointed out that he can’t be trusted. Meanwhile, you literally just called me a Trump supporter which just goes to show how ignorant you have become by aggressively applying blinders to your entire world view while attempting to do so to others. I am not, and have never been a Trump supporter. I am a conservative leaning moderate, Trump is neither conservative nor is he moderate; he has never been either of these things in his entire life so why would I support him. If you read anything other than curated and spoon fed takes that tell you only what you wanted to hear you might actually be able to articulate an argument to someone who disagrees with you.
lol- everything is a ‘ban’. Love that. Can you quote what they said that you think equates to a ‘ban’ of anything?
Yikes… your pop culture references need work.