Craig Doty II, a Tesla owner, narrowly avoided a collision after his vehicle, in Full Self-Driving (FSD) mode, allegedly steered towards an oncoming train.

Nighttime dashcam footage from earlier this month in Ohio captured the harrowing scene: Doty’s Tesla rapidly approaching a train with no apparent deceleration. He insisted his Tesla was in Full Self-Driving mode when it barreled towards the train crossing without slowing down.

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    1 year ago

    As someone with more than a basic understanding of technology and how self driving works, I would think the end user would take special care driving in fog since the car relies on cameras to identify the roads and objects. This is clearly user error.

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      1 year ago

      Leaving room for user error in this sort of situation is unacceptable at Tesla’s scale and with their engineering talent, as hamstrung as it is by their deranged leadership

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        1 year ago

        If you are in the driver’s seat, you are 100% responsible for what your car does. If you let it drive itself into a moving train, that’s on you.

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          I cannot fathom how anyone can honestly believe Tesla is entirely faultless in any of this, completely and totally free of any responsibility whatsoever.

          I’m not gonna say they’re 100% responsible but they are at least 1% responsible.

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            If Tesla is at fault for an inattentive driver ignoring the myriad warnings he got to remain attentive when he enabled FSD and allowing the 2 ton missile he’s sitting in to nearly plow into a train, then Dodge has to be responsible for the Challenger being used to plow into those protestors in Charlottesville.

            God fucking damn it, why do you people insist on making me defend fucking Tesla?!

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      1 year ago

      This is clearly user error.

      When it’s been advertised to the user as “full self driving”, is it?

      Furthermore, the car can’t recognize the visibility is low and alert the user and/or refuse to go into self driving?

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        There are many quite loud alerts when FSD is active in subpar circumstances about how it is degraded, and the car will slow down. That video was pretty foggy, I’d say the dude wasn’t paying attention.

        I came up on a train Sunday evening in the dark, which I hadn’t had happen in FSD, so I decided to just hit the brakes. It saw the crossing arms as blinking stoplights, probably wouldn’t have stopped?

        Either way that dude was definitely not paying attention.

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          1 year ago

          I wouldn’t trust Musk with my life either.

          But, presumably, we have moved beyond the age of advertising snake oil and miracle cures and advertisements have to be somewhat factual.

          If a user does as is advertised and something goes wrong I do believe it’s the advertiser who is liable.

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            1 year ago

            But, presumably, we have moved beyond the age of advertising snake oil and miracle cures and advertisements have to be somewhat factual.

            Keyword presumably.

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              1 year ago

              If the product doesn’t do what it says it does, that’s the product / manufacturers fault. Not the users fault. Wtf lol how is this even a debate.