lol, considering the “quality” content in the comments section it’s just going to be a continuation of that dumpster fire.
I would never go as far as to say that they’re “quality,” but I do think YT comment sections aren’t the complete shitshow that they were a decade or so ago. It really does depend on the channel though too.
Thanks bruh, if I had the patience to deal with ads maybe I’d watch YouTube.
So we can explicitly graffiti videos but we can’t add translations. 🤯
Advertisers working in your native language cannot hijack your attention when foreign language videos are running. Subtitling facilitates that, and encourages site activity that differs from consumption, such as broadening one’s horizons and being inquisitive about the real world.
I feel like this is what the comment section is used for.
Comments section are not voted on by users.
So the upvotes and downvotes in the comments don’t do anything?
Probably not. Or maybe every vote counts as “engagement” and pushes it to the top.
? They absolutely are…
I value my mental health too much to regularly dive into the YouTube comment section
I must be watching different videos than the people complaining about YouTube comments. The ones I see are virtually all positive.
Don’t just look at the comments. Look at the replies to the top comments. 8 out of 10 times they turn super toxic super quickly in my experience.
Can the channel owner delete comments on their videos?
And Youtube will 100% allow creators to hide notes, as well. Corporations will not allow themselves to be criticized on their own pages.
Yes, as well as automatically hiding new comments.
which is unfortunate, i think YT does it to save paid labor on moderating comments, but this allows video posters to upload misleading info and delete correcting replies, which also pairs well with hidden thumbs down
It also allows uploaders to stop hate filled posting, like incels trashing the comments on anything positive about female characters in media.
Honestly, I’d rather the channel have the first say here. It would be even better if some independent mod team could override channel owners though if there are enough reports.
Enough reports is how brigades are effective.
There isn’t a great solution that solves all the possibilities, it is a difficult problem. An independent mod team sounds great until you get into the details of how they are formed and the fact that they are people too who might miss nuance or hold their own shitty opinions.
Sure, but a manual review is way better than any form of automated system. To combat brigading, the mod team could issue temporary suspensions if that’s deemed to be the case, and full bans if the behavior is repeated.
It would be quite expensive for YouTube to do that, so it’s not happening. Best we’re getting is some automated nonsense, probably based on AI.
It also allows uploaders to stoke hate with their videos and delete reasonable takes and people calling out misinformation in the comments.
Which one is worse depends on the context of the video.
Wait, didn’t this feature already exist for years and then was shut down??
So now we have to read a community note to know a video is garbage instead of just seeing a massive dislike bar and clicking off?
LOL definitely a real comment by a real person. Dislike bar…
The dislike bar was real, I’ll tell ya, I’ve lived nigh on eighty years and me own two eyes seent the dislike bar clear as day! Ye better believe, sonny, it’s the truth!
It was a bar that showed the ratio of likes to dislikes
I don’t see what was wrong with the comment of /u/voyajer. Can you elaborate?
Yeah, the dislike bar used to be a thing. You could see how many dislikes there were compared to likes, all represented on a line below the two buttons. It was sort of like this image, except imagine the “yes” and “no” as a single line (but retaining their separate colors).
Wait till you tell him youtube used to have a 5-star rating system
Didn’t they take away the dislike button?
The removed the dislike count a couple years ago, so you can no longer see if a video is terrible.
you can still see that number on smarttube
“Return YouTube Dislike” extension for Firefox and Chrome.
Works surprisingly well even after all this time. I often forget its been removed.
It isn’t a real count of users who have clicked the dislike button, YouTube no longer makes that data available.
So I would not put much stock in that number.
I’m well aware of how it works.
Then why put any stock in it whatsoever
It’s not real though, you do know that right? There isn’t some hidden dislike count that YT has that the extension can access.
I imagine it’s taken from other users of the extension clicking the dislike button. A biased and wildly uneven sample. I would not put much stock in it at all.
Can confirm it is real, I have it installed right now via revanced, Grayjay, and Firefox extension.
Also, I have a terrible imagination, but that’s OK, as it’s open source and you can see how it’s calculated on their github.
It takes the ration of likes to dislikes from users of the service, and applies that ratio to the total number of likes to estimate the total number of dislikes.
It also archived a lot of video’s dislike counts before the dislike field was removed from the API.
As a user of the extension who knows how it works (no thanks to yourself), take it with whatever sized grain of salt you feel comfortable with.
It’s “real” as in it exists, but you say so yourself that it’s just an estimate.
The thumbnail and title alone is typically enough to know how garbage it is.
another chance to provide free labour to train their AI!
I’m sure the annotations will be intelligent and insightful…
Yeah clearly training data does get much review for these peasant facing products. I am assuming real tool will take legions of pros to properly tune up.
The issue not LLM per we, the issue is that none of these clown companies appear to do Amy data quality control. They just rush whatever janky thing they got to drive headlines.
what could possibly go wrong
Yeah that’ll end well I’m sure.
I miss when Youtube had community sourced subtitles and those little annotations on the video…
I give this about two weeks before they realize that it’s as effective at helping their advertising as having dislike buttons are.
I am not condoning poisoning of this well of information, but I will laugh my ass off when it inevitably occurs.
It really is unfortunate as it COULD be a really good feature if it were being implemented by someone who wasn’t just trying to crowdsource AI training data that will go into commercial products without compensation to anyone. It could be a great tool for professionals and experts to expand on what creators say, a way to call out falsehoods and Hypocrites, and a way to find your people in a world that is growing ever bleaker. But no, it is just being done to force more ads down our throats and harvest more money from us.
I condone poisoning this feature with false info. maybe it will teach them that the dislikes should be public again. using an extension is cool and all, but so many people still don’t know about it.
And, once they discontinue it, I hope someone creates an add-on to bring it back like they did with dislikes.
It’s a bit out-of-scope, but it’d be a great SponsorBlock feature!
It’s our duty to describe all videos as pizza glue recipes.
Hopefully it’s on by default and works like the old pop-up-video messages over the video. It should play a sound every time one pops up and then a bubble popping sound when you click on it to close it.
because twitter community notes is such a dumpster fire for nazis to spread disinformation, youtube was like hey we want some of that…
The motto google lives by.
This is just for training AI.
