cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/536301
The Russia’s State Social University (RSSU) has launched a “social rating” platform that claims to build a person’s “social portrait” with possible applications in future government policies.
Named “We,” the platform promises to determine a user’s comparative “social status” based on a survey that includes questions about income, family status, benefits, creditworthiness, criminal record, lifestyle and state awards, among others.
“The social rating figures don’t affect [a person’s] life, the availability of services or the career trajectory in any way,” RSSU said on the platform’s website. “But who knows what these figures will mean for you in the future?”
Observers on social media compared the platform’s name “We” to the highly influential 1921 dystopian novel of the same name by Russian author Yevgeny Zamyatin. [The novel “We” describes a world of harmony and conformity within a united totalitarian state. It inspired British author George Orwell to write his own novel, “Nineteen Eighty-Four”, which was published in 1949.]
The devs of this planet are lazy and rehashing content.
Is it called Facebook?
so, Facebook?
You can see why all the M-Ls on this site want Russia to win their fascist invasion. Clearly the Revolution lives.
Some .ml fellas can explain that this is good, actually. Oil oligarch kleptocracy with murdering political opponent characteristics is one of the most leftist governments possible, so everything they do is good.
How many putinpoints do they get for using a 3 to 13million$ Kh-101 cruise missile to bomb a children’s hospital chemo ward?
approximately the same thing an idf soldier gets for doing the same thing.
they have social credit scores in Israel too? Is is netanyahupoints or just putinpoints as well? (better have a universal currency for war crimes, including building military headquarters under hospitals with stolen aid like hamas)
Are you saying that Ukrainians are the same as Hamas?
Nah, probably just that idf and the Russian army are both filled with ear criminals.
Ear criminals? Are their covers that bad?
But why do you need to go fetch Israel as the ultimate measure that you need to understand the egregiousness of what russia is doing to Ukraine…when what russia is doing to Ukraine is both the crimes of Israel and hamas combined:
the crime of Israel’s brutality without regard for human life
and
the crime of hamas’s terroristic persistent attempt to destroy their neighbour at the expense of its own people
…there is no comparison here.
The comparison is that they both have large amounts of war criminals. You can compare sections of subjects, you know.
What about personality? You know the thing that actually matters in a person…
I’d say bombing children’s hospitals says a lot about someone’s personality.
Oh shit it’s meow meow beans
People keep commenting this. What’s the context?
It’s a from a Community episode.
Let’s see how the Make Russia China campaign goes!
They made meow meow beans?
Cool.
Cool cool cool.
good timing, its my birthday today
They’ve taken everything subjective and unspoken about human interaction and reduced it to explicit, objective numbers. I’ve never felt so alive.
sounds like kgb with extra steps
Russia can into tinpot dictator.
“The social rating figures don’t affect [a person’s] life, the availability of services or the career trajectory in any way,” RSSU said on the platform’s website. “But who knows what these figures will mean for you in the future?”
Well that’s a relief…
“But who knows what these figures will mean for you in the future?”
Well that’s not ominous at all
There was me thinking it could be used for something sinister.
When was the last time an entity that generated stats about someone didn’t end up with those stats being used to the detriment of the individual - or at the very least for the profit of another?
Seems like RSSU is fishing for the government’s money.
It’s probably very badly implemented and doesn’t work as described. In a sense this is good, but my point stands.
I sure hope you’re right on it not working properly, for the common russkies’ sake
I see the North Korea visit was pretty useful
Well this sounds a bit familiar…
Next step is adding a scoring system with penalties for certain behavior and it will be quite similar to the social system that is rolling out in China…
That’s probably the inspiration, but like hell they’ll manage to actually build something as functional.
I wouldn’t underestimate the engineering competence of Russians especially when it comes to autocratic surveillance tools. There are plenty of Russian-built tools and web apps that function quite well - Yandex, VK, etc. The west does not have a monopoly on innovation.
The west does not have a monopoly on innovation.
Nope - but it does look like we have the “monopoly” of being able to call out bullshit openly and not fear falling out of a window. Or being stabbed.
Oh that’s coming. Stay tuned.
Well, until the President decides otherwise, anyway.
Luckily “the West” isn’t just the U.S. - it’s also France, the U.K., Mexico and even Australia…
True! I’ve been too focused on our local politics lately!
I’ve been, too. Even though I’m neither in the US, nor a US citizen… It’s scary right now…
Yandex is a good example, VK - I’m not certain of that.
Anyway, what I meant is that such kind of social rating needs to source data from somewhere. That means integration with quite a lot of systems built for the Russian state, which often suck a lot. It’s normal that half the time remote payments for utilities don’t work, for example.
I mean, yeah, they can. But if it’s going to be some nation-wide system for the government, the bureaucracy will practically kill this.
Comparing run of the mill government services with something as advantageous as a social credit app is not apples to apples. It’s not like they assign utility administrators to work for GRU hacking units. The people that build this tool will be highly paid technical experts. And there is no shortage of them in Russia. It’s definitely not 100% but there’s a decent chance they can cobble together a working system that tracks social scores for the vast majority of Russian citizens.
Social scores would logically depend on the data sourced from things working as I described.
But you may be right, of course.
How do you mean remote payments for utilities. Buying something in Russia from a foreign country or the other way around ? Or just remote payments through Russia ?
I meant - submitting water counters’ data and such via their website and paying there. It’s not about payments themselves.
Putinism as it is. Oligarchy and survailance.
