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ModerateImprovement@sh.itjust.works to politics @lemmy.world · 11 months ago

The Supreme Court Should Be Ashamed for Criminalizing Homelessness.

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ModerateImprovement@sh.itjust.works to politics @lemmy.world · 11 months ago
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Let me tell you: No one wakes up one morning and chooses to be homeless.
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    Living in your own feces isn’t freedom.

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      You don’t get to define what freedom is for somebody else.

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        When someone is living in their own refuse, they have abdicated the responsibility to make decisions for themselves.

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          Lol! What kind of weird ass argument is this?!

          Can you back it up?

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            You honestly think someone living in garbage and shit is capable of making good life decions?

            Because if they were, the rest of us wouldn’t be dealing with:

            https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2023/07/hidden-toll-of-homeless-crisis-portlands-prized-natural-areas.html

            https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2021/05/portland-announces-it-will-aggressively-clean-or-remove-homeless-encampments.html

            https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/homeless/security-guards-stopping-homeless-people-camping-old-town-steel-bridge/283-2558b928-4c8d-4242-800c-d348c128d19b

            It’s bad enough now that there’s actually a cottage industry building up around camp cleanup:

            https://www.bioonepdx.com/homeless-encampment-cleanup/

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              You haven’t answered my question. All those links talk about the problem of homelessness, not that they “abdicated the responsibility to make decisions for themselves.”

              Excellent victim blaming, by the way.

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                If you’re living in the street, shitting on the sidewalk, yes, you’ve abdicated the decision making process.

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                  I disagree with you and I’m done with this conversation. You haven’t backed up any of your claims.

                  Edit: Hopefully you won’t ban me for my opinions.

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                    LOL - you need evidence that someone shitting on the sidewalk like a dog is making good life choices?

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          Well, yes, society needs people to abuse.

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            They’re abusing themselves. Society saying “no, stop it.” is the OPPOSITE of abuse.

            It’s no different than grand-ma being a hoarder. Her kids and grand kids step in to make decisions for her because she clearly can’t on her own.

            It’s just that, in this case, it’s society doing the heavy lifting.

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              Yes, conformity must be enforced.

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                When your non-conformity places you and others at risk? Absolutely.

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                  I look forward to a human world without humans harming others. It will occur when humans have eliminated themselves as a species, and that time might not be far off.

                  Until then, we can enjoy oppressing the non-conformist and mentally ill. People like Mary Barnes shouldn’t have been allowed to enjoy the freedom she did - she lived in her poo, made art with it, and ended up being a successful artist. Disgusting!!!

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                    Forcing mentally ill people into treatment isn’t harm, it’s helping someone incapable of helping themselves.

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