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Amicitas@lemmy.world to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 9 months ago

Don’t ever hand your phone to the cops

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Don’t ever hand your phone to the cops

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Amicitas@lemmy.world to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 9 months ago
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  • potatopotato@sh.itjust.works
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    If you absolutely have to hand over your phone, turn it off completely, like hold the power button and then tap the off icon. That will dump any keys out of RAM, which is why it always requires the full password to unlock when you turn it back on. Both in terms of how your phone works and the leaks we’ve seen, the cracking tools the police have are overall significantly less likely to be successful when used on a phone that’s been turned off and not unlocked since.

    Also, IIRC iphones have a feature where they will dump at least some of the system keys from RAM if you push the lock button five times. I’d still trust fully off more but that’s easier to do covertly.

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      My country has made it illegal to not give your keys.

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        What county is this, so I know to avoid it?

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          Some European one.

        • Im_old@lemmy.world
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          9 months ago

          UK

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            Can’t I just say I forgot my pin? They can’t prove I don’t have a shit memory.

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              You can use that argument but it will depend on if they believe you.

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                How can they prove guilt? Innocent until proven guilty under English common law, right?

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                  lol

                • x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  It’s not about guilt. It’s about whether or not you know the password. In most cases not knowing the password will be deemed improbable because the chances are extremely low. You’ll have to provide a scenario where it becomes probable, and said scenario must be deemed probable as well.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_Investigatory_Powers_Act_2000

            • Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world
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              That only works if you’re rich

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                Classic quality Land

            • Im_old@lemmy.world
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              Good luck https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-25745989

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            Nah, can’t be, they said it was a European one and the UK voted to no longer be part of Europe. /s

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              Incidentally, the European court for human rights said that that law violated the ECHR convention.

              The UK said “yeah, so what?”, which since they’ve left the EC it’s legally right, but it’s not a great outlook when you’re told your laws violate human rights.

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          A lot countries have this now.

          Even for a number of countries where it’s not technically enshrined in law, police can still effectively do it anyway, by detaining you for as long as they like until you comply.

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            The solution is to simply shit yourself, without breaking eye contact, while under their custody to assert dominance.

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        Sounds like it’s time for the deniably encrypted phone.

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      Also on Android press the power button and volume up button simultaneously, and then press lockdown.

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      Five times wanted to set off an emergency service call and sound the alarm 🚨 YMMV (Pixel 7)

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        Additionally, with the Pixel 9 holding down the power button no longer turns it off, you have to press power and volume up at the same time to get to the power menu.

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          There’s usually a hardware level power off function for when the device freezes and stuff. Can usually hold the power button for ~10 seconds will power off the device without needing to look at the screen

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          That can be changed in the settings

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            I had no idea… thank you! It’s always a crapshoot if I take a screenshot or get into the power settings. So bizarre.

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              power and volume down does screenshots

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                Power and Volume DOWN would make infinitely more sense for “power DOWN” function.

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                  not particularly

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