Donald Trump on Sunday admitted that he refused to pay his workers overtime, leading to a massive pushback. Trump, who made a similar comment recently about how he "hated" paying overtime to his employees, went even further over the weekend at a rally in Pennsylvania. At that same rally, the for...
  • vortic@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I despise Trump. I want him to lose. This kind of “journalism” needs to die so that the real stories about him don’t get buried by half truths and lies. Trump says enough shitty, fashist things that we don’t need to twist his words like this.

    Trump said that he hates paying people overtime so, if they’re getting close to overtime, he brings other people in. He does what every business does and implements shifts. He didn’t say that he screws people out of overtime pay for time they worked. He avoids overtime pay by brining in a new shift of workers.

    How often Trump stiffs his employees and contractors for real is a good story. This story is essentially a lie that attempts to portray Trump badly but really only makes “the left” look bad.

    Don’t lie and ruin the credibility of left-leaning media. Use the real ammo that Trump drops like bread crumbs everywhere he goes.

    • just_another_person@lemmy.worldOP
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      9 months ago

      Him screwing over workers IS journalism that works against him. His bullshit “man of the people” shtick and trying to reform the GOP as pro-labor is in direct contrast to him screwing people over.

      Christ, you need to take a break.

      • vortic@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        I know that he does screw over employees, but how is that the case in this circumstance? He is sending workers home before they hit overtime and bringing in a different shift of workers. Every business does that. Every business attempts to minimize the amount of overtime that they pay. In fact, that’s the point of overtime laws, to disincentivize working employees too many hours.

        I’m not defending him as a person. I’m saying this is shitty journalism that just gives him something additional to point at when he says that the media lies about him. We shouldn’t be giving him that ammo.

        • just_another_person@lemmy.worldOP
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          9 months ago

          The American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations, the national trade union center known as AFL-CIO, said in response, “This isn’t a gaffe and he didn’t just misspeak — Trump said this in Michigan on Friday and Pennsylvania today. Trump cut overtime for millions of Americans as President — and his Project 2025 agenda will do it again.”

          That says it all. It’s right there in the article. Now, if you’re saying its “totally legal, and totally cool” what he’s doing and admitting to, then that’s your own opinion. A fuck ton of other absolutely hate it and think it’s bullshit, which validates this reporting being out there.

          • vortic@lemmy.world
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            9 months ago

            Again, let me preface this by saying that I do not like Trump and think that he is terrible for the country. I’m just saying that he says enough awful shit that we don’t need to twist the truth or lie.

            Okay, two things here. First, the statement that Trump “cut overtime for millions of Americans as President” has been rated as “Mostly False” by PolitiFact.

            PolitiFact ruling: Mostly False. When contacted for comment, the Harris-Walz campaign pointed to news articles showing that former President Barack Obama proposed to extend overtime pay eligibility to more workers, but a judge blocked it in November 2016, just before it was slated to take effect. The Trump administration did not challenge the judge’s ruling and instead set its own overtime rule, which extended overtime pay to millions fewer people than Obama’s rule would have done.

            The Obama rule was not in effect at the time Trump took office, so Trump’s administration did not cut an existing benefit.

            Second, that’s not even what this article is about. This is about him saying the following:

            I know a lot about overtime. I hated to give overtime. I hated it. I’d get … I shouldn’t say this … I’d get other people in. I wouldn’t pay. I hated it.

            So, what does he say there? He hated paying overtime so he would bring in new people to take over the work. He didn’t stiff them. He sent them home after working a full shift and brought in new people to take over.

            Now, he may have (probably did) stiff workers in other ways. This is not evidence of that.

    • SeattleRain@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      9 months ago

      It could definitely could be interpreted that way. Liberals are so out of touch they don’t realize that that’s the point of overtime. To make employers hire more people instead of just pushing their current staff more and more.

    • usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      Plus more scattered throughout. Here’s just some of the obvious quotes about it

      DOL should clarify that a home office is not subject to OSHA regulations and that time to set up a home office is not compensable time or eligible for overtime calculations

      They want to remove overtime pay for work from home

      Congress should amend the NLRA to authorize collective bargaining to treat national employment laws and regulations as negotiable defaults. For example, this reform would allow a union to bless a relaxed overtime trigger (e.g., 45 hours a week, or 80 hours over two weeks)

      Allowing labor laws to be negotiable is going to be used by companies to given worse labor contracts to unions and is a blatant attempt to weaken their power

      Here’s a decent article that includes some of the more conniving ways Project 2025 wants to gut overtime

      • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        9 months ago

        You’d think Unions would just reject that bullshit, but then Teamsters is … probably fully on board.

        • chillinit@lemmynsfw.com
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          9 months ago

          The Teamsters, who’re unabashably using bureaucratic obstruction and strict compliance to refuse to cross picket lines.

  • MyOpinion@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    The GOP paints a beautiful picture of our future. /s It is just sad that this race is even close. It is sickening that a large amount of our population supports this.

  • s3p5r@lemm.eeEnglish
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    9 months ago

    List of sources quoted in this list of "push back:

    So if you were hoping for actual consequences from his base or even just someone new and noteworthy criticizing him, this is not the article for you. I’m glad the Trade Unions are going to spread the word though, that will be a good thing.

  • cultsuperstar@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    He’s notorious for not paying people. He purposely chose small contractors to help build and do work on his properties, then would say they did terrible work and he wasn’t going to pay them. He knew they wouldn’t be able to afford to take him to court to get the money owed.

    • beebarfbadger@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      He’s a successful businessman, he does indeed run the country exactly like he runs his businesses: stiff the people doing the work for him, divert the funds towards his nepotism clique, bleed the company dry until bankruptcy, and move on to do the exact same thing again because when you’re a star, they let you do it.

  • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Trump: I WILL FUCK YOU ALL UP THE ASS!

    crowd: CHEERS

    Trump: I THINK YOU’RE ALL TRASH AND I WISH I COULD THROW YOU ALL IN A GIANT POOL OF ACID

    crowd: ERUPTS WITH APPROVAL

    Trump: I WILL EAT YOUR CHILDREN

    crowd: CHEERS WILDLY AND THROW BABIES IN THE AIR

  • WoahWoah@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Somehow his supporters will believe he only means no overtime pay for black people, not good patriots like them.