• DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Libertarians by their very definition cannot be patriotic.

    For starters, they want to destroy, defund, and minimize the state and beneficial services that make up a nation.

    Secondly they want to sell it off the peices to private interests.

    …and they want these things to reduce and avoid paying for their fair share, shifting their tax burden, and the tax burden for their companies to others.

    Libertarians can’t be patriotic, they by definition attack nations in the name of private enterprise, and personal profiteering.

    They seek to increase the wealth gap, exploit their fellow citizens, and disband the connection in between, reducing all to the profit motive, because they can have no other values to maintain but money. They’re nihilists, and comflict with all value systems which aren’t, including the nation and patriotism.

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      9 months ago

      Despite my Anarchist leanings, I still hate Tea-Partiers for their disregard for human life.

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        9 months ago

        On the back end the Tea Party movement was always a conglomeration of Koch related organizations and think tanks, who teamed up with 'Americans for Prosperity ', Phillip Morris, and ‘Citizens for a Sound Economy’.

        https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Tea_Party

        It’s an accurate small scale model of what parts of Trumps campaign would later become, using the appearance of a “grass roots” movement to disguise the big money interests driving things just under the surface.

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          Not “always.” I believe the Tea Party was a genuine grass-roots movement for at least a few weeks or months at the very beginning, before the Koch-suckers co-opted it. Frankly, it had a lot in common with Occupy Wall Street and I was holding out hope for a while that the two movements would merge.

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      9 months ago

      The ideal of libertarianism is that it’s better for the individual. It’s naive and require rejecting pretty much all evidence, but the idea that they want the power to be consolidated in private companies inherently requires ignoring the ideals.

      Its just like people who support Communism. It’s good I’m theory but you have to really reject reality to convince yourself that it could actually work and doesn’t just end up in an oligarchy or other such consolidated power system.