Does the world’s richest man really believe that the West might be saved by the same sexual practices found in a Chinese imperial court?

Elon Musk allegedly has at least 14 children with four separate women.

Musk is also allegedly building a series of properties – a baby compound some are calling it – to house his various families.

“A collapsing birth rate is the biggest danger civilisation faces by far,” he tweeted in 2022. “There’s really no time like the present. Just have kids. You won’t be sorry. It’ll work out.”

If all these pronatalists want legions of children, perhaps it’s time they started being better fathers.

  • Boddhisatva@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    discussion about family values and having babies is split into two extreme camps – the trad-wife Right and the “abolish the family” Left

    What is this nonsense? Assuming there even is an “abolish the family” left, it is so tiny and niche that I’ve never even heard of it. Certainly nothing as vocal and prevalent as the trad-wife people. I rather suspect that this author just had to find, or maybe make up, something so they could both-sides the topic and feel superior to everyone.

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      Seems like a run of the mill liberal whose information about “the left” comes from far right talking points:

      But there is a problem with the way in which discussion about family values and having babies is split into two extreme camps – the trad-wife Right and the “abolish the family” Left. For any young couple starting out, the choices seem to be to either raise your non-binary child in defiance of the nuclear family, or to go full homestead and demand that your wife wear gingham and churn her own butter amongst a multitude of children.

      Like, what the fuck is this shit?

      The discussion about “family values” might seem like this if you only listen to what conservatives are claiming about what “the left” wants.

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        2 months ago

        Yes, this is a common thing Conservatives do in America. They take traits they don’t like about the opposition, make up absurd caricatures that dial up all those traits to 11, then rail at the caricature like it’s reality, pulling the rest of the country rightward with them.

        It’s how we get to immigrants in Springfield eating the dogs. It’s how we get to kids who identify as cats using litter boxes in school instead of toilets. And it’s how we get to liberals wanting to “abolish the family” simply by recognizing that gender may be a social construct and have fluidity. In the Conservative Cinematic Universe, all these things are happening, and are key plot drivers to what happens next.

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      For conservatives, “family” is just a dog whistle for patriarchy. In other words, they’re just butthurt about womens’ lib and male heads of households not having absolute power to abuse their wife and kids.

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        2 months ago

        Hey that’s not fair, it’s also a dogwhistle for homophobia. They’re butthurt about gay rights too lol