Pump-and-dump schemes, fraud, ransomware, multi-level marketing, spam, incentivizing selfishness, greed, and general unethical behaviour, buying elections, quasi Nazis creating their own coins, et cetera. In my opinion, over the years the evidence has piled up tall enough to show that crypto"currencies" are an overal detriment to society.

It therefore surprised me to discover that behind the ♡ donation button on top of most Lemmy instances except for Beehaw, there is an option to donate “crypto”. This sets a bad example. Thoughts?

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    Depending on where users are located, it might be the only realistic option they have if they want to donate. Besides, traditional payment systems like PayPal, MasterCard, Visa etc are all problematic in their own right.

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      “Depending on where users are located, it might be the only realistic option they have if they want to donate.”

      Could you give us an example of such a location please?

      “Besides, traditional payment systems like PayPal, MasterCard, Visa etc are all problematic in their own right.”

      Whataboutism fallacy.

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        Could you give us an example of such a location please?

        Russia, which is blocked from other international payment systems. Or any other authoritarian country where you might not necessarily want the government to know where you donate your money to.

        Whataboutism fallacy.

        We’re still throwing around fallacies like it’s 2010? Okay, I cast fallacy fallacy!

        When talking about whether a donation button should have a specific payment option, it’s relevant if the alternatives it offers are better or worse. Otherwise, the argument might as well be to not have a donation option at all.

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    I use monero, and I donate to projects in monero.

    I don’t want to start a relationship with those I donate to, I want to drop money in the pot and walk away. I don’t want followup emails, I don’t want to be on a donor list, I don’t want call to action phone calls.

    Every other form of transaction starts a permanent relationship. I don’t like that

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        donate.wikimedia.org as an example, requires a email address, and their policy is

        We do not sell or trade your information to anyone. By donating, you agree to share your personal information with the Wikimedia Foundation, the nonprofit organization that hosts Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects, and its service providers pursuant to our donor policy. Wikimedia Foundation and its service providers are located in the United States and in other countries whose privacy laws may not be equivalent to your own. For more information please read our donor policy.

        they keep all of the personal info, so yes, it very much starts a relationship with them.

        In order to donate with traditional systems, you have to dox yourself