• BakerBagel@midwest.social
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      10 days ago

      He wouldnhave ran the exact same campaign as Harris, who ran the exact same campaign as Clinton. Why do you think Newsom would do any better?

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        10 days ago

        Penis. He would’ve done better because he has one, and a non-negligible percentage of our voters are sexist.

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          10 days ago

          Biden was fairly popular in 2020 and only squeaked out a victory because the morgues were literally overflowing with dead bodies from COVID. Until the Democrats start advocating for total reforms, they will continue to lose elections.

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        10 days ago

        Assuming the exact campaign, which I’m not even conceeding here. What percentage of votes do you think a white male who hasn’t thrown people in jail for drugs as a prosecutor could have drummed up?

        I’m thinking there’s a 5 - 15% spread there, easy.

        He’s also got a lot more wit and charisma, so even the same “Trump bad” campaign would have been more effective.

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        Honestly it’s charisma more than anything. JFK, Johnson Clinton, gore doesn’t have it, Kerry doesn’t have it, Obama has it, Hillary doesn’t have it, Biden doesn’t really but post trump litterally a walking corpse worked. Kamala doesn’t have it, and people have goldfish memories.

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          Ok, but let’s not pretend gore didn’t win. It was just close enough in the final state that the supreme court gave it to Bush rather than keep recounting

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          9 days ago

          This seems a little begging the question.

          Even if it wasn’t, it’s a little damning to liberals who now seem to only like a candidate if they think they are “charismatic”, which seems suspiciously ill-defined.