https://x.com/i/status/1948211079001051267

The GOP chair was caught off guard and scrambled—first delaying the vote, then trying to sabotage it by adding amendments to include Biden administration communications. Democrats called their bluff and agreed.

Then the GOP chair, Rep. Higgins, lied, claiming the motion FAILED until Rep. Robert Garcia forced a full roll call vote.

Ultimately, the vote passed 8-2 after 3 Republicans DEFIED their leadership and joined all 5 Democrats to pass the motion.

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    11 days ago

    Can someone explain to this non-american why the Democrats are treating this as a successful upset when they could have released the Epstein files during Biden?

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      11 days ago

      It’s all bread and circuses until the 1% have extracted the last iota of capital from the rest of us and the country finally collapses.

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      Because they COULDN’T release them under Biden. They were sealed by court order until January 2025.

      There is a lot of desperate “both sides” nonsense going on here but the fact remains, Democrats are voting to release them and Republicans are not. If Democrats wanted to cover them up, why would they be doing that?

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      Its a PR stunt. The democratic establishment doesn’t want them released. The democrats that do, are the minority faction of progressives, and they don’t have enough political power to actually get them released. Biden is not a progressive, he wants the uphold the status quo, including, protecting the Democrats on that list.

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        Its a PR stunt. The democratic establishment doesn’t want them released.

        That makes no fucking sense whatsoever. Why would they overwhelmingly vote to realease them then?

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      11 days ago

      Because they couldn’t, or at least not without potentially ruining the case while it was before the courts at the time?

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      The Dems have molesters/rapists on the list themselves. The difference is that we are not cultists and will gladly watch those perverts go to jail. Apparently MAGA just barely started caring about justice as it pertains to the files.

      Why were the files not released under Biden? Hell … Bill Clinton is on the list (shocking).

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      11 days ago

      Politik-brained Canadian here:

      IIRC they didn’t raid Epstein till 2019. In 2020 Democrats had a narrow majority in the house which they would lose in 2022.

      Than January 6, 2021 happened, and I think everyone thought that would be the legal case that brought Trump down.

      It kind of seemed inevitable that the Epstein files would get leaked or released eventually. That is until Trump officially ran again in 2023; creating the possibility that the evidence would be destroyed permanently if he won.

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        just to tie on to this, theres a none zero chance some prominent democrat “old guard” are also on the list, and their positions are too valuable to be lost (to the status quo). january 6th, if it was enough, would have been a great way to protect the old guard and get rid of trump. but thats evidently not what happened.

        i dont care whos on the list, from what side, i want them all punished. anybody whos complicit in the current shit show, or is on that list, needs to be shot in the street like a rabid dog.

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          While I was still on Reddit, there was a list going around of politicians charged with child sex offences. Sure, there were a few Dems, curse them to hell, but by FAR the majority were Republikkklans. The list was up to page 57 last time I sighted it.

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        Than January 6, 2021 happened, and I think everyone thought that would be the legal case that brought Trump down.

        And it might have been if they didn’t drag their feet so much.

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      I don’t see anyone saying this yet, but the Epstein files were sealed by a court order for Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial. They weren’t unsealed until January of 2025. Biden couldn’t have released them without violating the court order that sealed them - and possibly giving Ghislaine’s lawyers a slam dunk to get her off with a mistrial.

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        Biden couldn’t have released them without violating the court order that sealed them

        Presidents can do whatever they want as long as it’s an official act.

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          Merrick Garland is a hard core libertarian centrist and Biden appreciated him for being status quo which means not rocking the boat or doing any effort to to hold anyone rich accountable as his previous bosses were BP and Amazon.

          He also refused to prosecute Matt Gaetz.

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          Because Merrick Garland is incredibly lazy. He spent his entire tenure sitting around doing nothing.

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              Is there any U.S. administration that should be let off the hook in the last 25 years of ratfuckery? I’ll just be happy if your Democrats are desperate enough to combat overt corruption that they’ll accept collateral damage among theirs and their masters.

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          Garland is a republikkkan and a member of the Federalist Society. He was Biden’s greatest failure.

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      Biden likely would have never released it because his donors are on the list, also the general public on the US, if you haven’t caught on yet are like 30% complete idiots. A good example of this is that many people in comments on Instagram or other social media have said ‘‘why would anyone even willingly fly on a plane called ‘the Lolita express’?’’ Because they can’t figure out that the press started calling Epstine’s plane that long after the accusations and convictions were over with. They’re even more confused that the pilot of the plant never saw ANY sexual behavior or implied sexual relationship of any minors on the plane or even adults on the plane. How couldn’t he tell?! Because Epstine was a blackmail con man, not a ‘‘hay everybody here’s all my dirty secrets! Look at this! It’s incriminating!’’ Man. Blackmail necessitates obfuscation, and likewise gaining access to wealthy targets ment he ALSO needs to appear harmless and well connected to other wealthy people, who only saw normal behavior. So this list, the flight logs, even the island visitors, will all be at the very least 50% innocent people, if not way higher numbers. You only need a few successful targets to get by with blackmail and if the targets all have lots of money and know eachother the last thing you want is for them to be aware your blackmailing them all at once. And if he never did blackmail and just ran a pedophile ring, the level of secrecy would still be crazy high and he’d still want to look innocent to the majority of people he knew that’s how all child abusers and rapists in general tend to behave.

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      Shhh! Don’t ruin it for the rest of us! On tomorrow’s episode of “As The Empire Crumbles”, will the files lead to anything actionable?