Easy for young single people who have limited responsibilities and enough money to cover rent and food for a month or two.
Very difficult for anyone supporting a family and/or living paycheck to paycheck. Impossible for anyone in an economic situation where they need to work two jobs just to keep a roof over their head.
This is a valid concern that folks need to take into consideration. It’s all well and good to say that long term liberty is more important than short term security, and I agree with that sentiment, but it’s better not to force people to choose.
This is why there are strike funds. In this case, I would recommend mutual aid - even a small group of 5-10 people can work together to save money by buying essentials in bulk. Larger groups can help each other cover rent, form daycare coops, and so on.
Best time to start a group was a year ago, next best time is today.
we’ve got this great garden. only thing is, this time of year, only thing edible growing in it is lettuce (no not weed that is not that kind of edible and that’s in one of the neighbor’s greenhouse. i think. i haven’t asked). best lettuce you’ll ever eat (homegrown lettuce will have you spitting out any other lettuce you eat the rest of your life it’s that much better. it’s a texture thing. it’s both soft and crunchy and fuck i’m gonna go make a salad brb. also has flavor) and is incredibly easy to grow. so like, be really sure you want to grow lettuce the rest of your life or give up salads and shit.
sorry, i had a point before i got distracted by lettuce. community garden. we have kind of turned our backyards into a community garden, since we all grow tomatoes and oranges or lemons and zucchini and shit. zone 8 or 9 or something. some of us either have better soil or better talent for some things. we have the best blackberry bush. so a group of us have agreed to grow more of some things so we don’t have to grow others, we can just get it from the neighbors kind of thing. it’s great if you can organize with neighbors you can trust not to take advantage like we have
More and more our responsibilities are shifting from the personal towards a responsibility to the whole. Resistance in any form is going to mean hardship, hardship I’d much rather deal with than the country we’re heading towards. It will NEVER be easy. It will NEVER be a good time.
Ah shucks, I guess it’s just too inconvenient… not like you can still clock in and slow roll your work or frankly anything other than complaining how hard it is doing the right thing…
The person I replied to was talking about staying on strike until the situation changes significantly. That is not something a parent can afford to do.
Or were you offering to buy food for their children?
“It sucks” is a very far stretch from “my 3-year-old hasn’t eaten in 2 days”.
All you’re telling me so far is that you have no real experience in being responsible to provide care for other people, which means that you have no business telling other people what they can or can’t afford in their lives.
Yes, that’s my point. A person in that situation cannot afford to go on strike indefinitely. They need whatever income they can get.
If you want people in such situations to join the strike, then the community support for their needs must be available and provided up front. Not for like a day or two, but for however many months or years it takes them to find a new source of income after they get fired from their job for going on strike for weeks.
If 10% of the workers strike, the country will come to a standstill. I don’t know if we’ll get those kinds of numbers but if we do it will put the fear of god into the politicians and oligarchs.
I’m hoping that folks will strike and stay out until Noam and Miller are fired and there are commitments to give the violent CBP and ICE agents real consequences, including investigations and eventually trials for state murder charges. I think that would be enough that many folks would go back to work. I doubt that people are going to hold out until ICE is abolished, since that won’t be in the 1st few attempts at appeasement and no one is prepared to strike for months.
I also doubt that Trump would be removed during a strike since impeachment and removal takes a while. But if the US population really learns to use the general strike because of the shitshow that is the Trump admin, I could see all the money and power people believing that Trump has outlived his usefulness. That could lead to eventual removal.
The issue with calls for general strikes in the US is that they’re not organized at all. We need representatives in every workplace that can make sure people know when to strike, and won’t be retaliated against for striking. These unions can then coordinate the strike with other workplaces so that the strike has the biggest impact.
Incorrect. We had union buy-in from over 100+ unions. We had business owner buy-in as well, bringing the total to 700+ businesses closed during the strike. The organization was grass-roots, fast, and actually gave people the time to get behind it. This one is… not as organized and its got me worried.
January 30—until ice is abolished, all republicans resign, and Trump leaves office.
That’s the only way. Anything else is a blank picket sign.
Easy for young single people who have limited responsibilities and enough money to cover rent and food for a month or two.
Very difficult for anyone supporting a family and/or living paycheck to paycheck. Impossible for anyone in an economic situation where they need to work two jobs just to keep a roof over their head.
This is a valid concern that folks need to take into consideration. It’s all well and good to say that long term liberty is more important than short term security, and I agree with that sentiment, but it’s better not to force people to choose.
This is why there are strike funds. In this case, I would recommend mutual aid - even a small group of 5-10 people can work together to save money by buying essentials in bulk. Larger groups can help each other cover rent, form daycare coops, and so on.
Best time to start a group was a year ago, next best time is today.
we’ve got this great garden. only thing is, this time of year, only thing edible growing in it is lettuce (no not weed that is not that kind of edible and that’s in one of the neighbor’s greenhouse. i think. i haven’t asked). best lettuce you’ll ever eat (homegrown lettuce will have you spitting out any other lettuce you eat the rest of your life it’s that much better. it’s a texture thing. it’s both soft and crunchy and fuck i’m gonna go make a salad brb. also has flavor) and is incredibly easy to grow. so like, be really sure you want to grow lettuce the rest of your life or give up salads and shit.
sorry, i had a point before i got distracted by lettuce. community garden. we have kind of turned our backyards into a community garden, since we all grow tomatoes and oranges or lemons and zucchini and shit. zone 8 or 9 or something. some of us either have better soil or better talent for some things. we have the best blackberry bush. so a group of us have agreed to grow more of some things so we don’t have to grow others, we can just get it from the neighbors kind of thing. it’s great if you can organize with neighbors you can trust not to take advantage like we have
More and more our responsibilities are shifting from the personal towards a responsibility to the whole. Resistance in any form is going to mean hardship, hardship I’d much rather deal with than the country we’re heading towards. It will NEVER be easy. It will NEVER be a good time.
Ah shucks, I guess it’s just too inconvenient… not like you can still clock in and slow roll your work or frankly anything other than complaining how hard it is doing the right thing…
The person I replied to was talking about staying on strike until the situation changes significantly. That is not something a parent can afford to do.
Or were you offering to buy food for their children?
It’s a general strike for a reason. It sucks for everyone for a reason
“It sucks” is a very far stretch from “my 3-year-old hasn’t eaten in 2 days”.
All you’re telling me so far is that you have no real experience in being responsible to provide care for other people, which means that you have no business telling other people what they can or can’t afford in their lives.
You’re describing circumstances folks suffer already…
Yes, that’s my point. A person in that situation cannot afford to go on strike indefinitely. They need whatever income they can get.
If you want people in such situations to join the strike, then the community support for their needs must be available and provided up front. Not for like a day or two, but for however many months or years it takes them to find a new source of income after they get fired from their job for going on strike for weeks.
AND I DIG IT. But this shit don’t happen cause it’s convenient. Meanwhile folks here complain enough action didn’t happen…
If 10% of the workers strike, the country will come to a standstill. I don’t know if we’ll get those kinds of numbers but if we do it will put the fear of god into the politicians and oligarchs.
I’m hoping that folks will strike and stay out until Noam and Miller are fired and there are commitments to give the violent CBP and ICE agents real consequences, including investigations and eventually trials for state murder charges. I think that would be enough that many folks would go back to work. I doubt that people are going to hold out until ICE is abolished, since that won’t be in the 1st few attempts at appeasement and no one is prepared to strike for months.
I also doubt that Trump would be removed during a strike since impeachment and removal takes a while. But if the US population really learns to use the general strike because of the shitshow that is the Trump admin, I could see all the money and power people believing that Trump has outlived his usefulness. That could lead to eventual removal.
The issue with calls for general strikes in the US is that they’re not organized at all. We need representatives in every workplace that can make sure people know when to strike, and won’t be retaliated against for striking. These unions can then coordinate the strike with other workplaces so that the strike has the biggest impact.
A general strike happened in Minneapolis without that level of organization.
Incorrect. We had union buy-in from over 100+ unions. We had business owner buy-in as well, bringing the total to 700+ businesses closed during the strike. The organization was grass-roots, fast, and actually gave people the time to get behind it. This one is… not as organized and its got me worried.