• SwifferWetjet@thelemmy.club
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    4 months ago

    Ooh, yay! I just swung over myself after my eighth account permaban (with no link to alleged offending comment) within 24 hours of posting about how one of the admins is in regular contact with Ghislaine Maxwell while she’s in prison🤔

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      4 months ago

      It’s funny how they don’t show you the comment.

      I just got permabanned within a minute or so of posting something like “The only way to get Trump out of office is for 100,000 people to drag him out.”. Appeal denied even though I said it was hyperbole.

      I still like the sheer volume of content on Reddit but they are getting worse all the time.

  • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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    4 months ago

    It’s really weird to me how literally anything they say or do is immediately interpreted in the worst possible way here, on Lemmy.

    Let’s get real for a second.

    Is there a bot problem on the Internet in general? That’s a resounding “yes”.

    Do we want to do something about it?

    According to OP - no, not at all.

    I mean, if OP considers malicious everything that Spez listed, the only remaining course of action is inaction and hoping for the best.

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      4 months ago

      Ironically the only thing that will ever work is identifying a user to a person in one form or another. Otherwise it’s just a never ending arms race.

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        Yup! Which is why institutions that already handle identities (governments, banks, etc) should be involved.

        The way I see it: an institution verifies your identity as a human and has your personal details (such as DoB). A tool (similar to, e.g. Sweden’t BankID) is available to the user. When a website says “you must be 18 years old to access this”, a QR code is generated. You scan the code with your tool, and agree to send only the information about whether or not you’re an adult. Not the DoB, not anything else, just a token of “yup, adult”. If a website has a strong anti-bot policy, same same goes for your “proof of human”.

        This can be set up in a way that guarantees the user’s privacy (e.g. by just not storing any logs).

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          Yes but how does that prevent the authority, in this case a govenment, from being able to link the token that was used (QR code) back to what it was used for?

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            Depends on how you create it. It could be set up that your app talks to the website, and the identity provider, but the identity provider never talks to the website. As in: you get a token from the IP, store it locally, send it out to he website, the website confirms retrieval and logs you in, and then all the logs get purged on your device so they can’t be retrieved.

            The IP side would only see that someone has requested access to some of your data (e.g. proof of age, proof of human, maybe citizenship, if the content is region-locked), and that you have agreed to share it.

            The website would only see the tokens of proof, but not who you actually are.

            Ironically, the tech behind NFTs might be super helpful with this.

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              If I am understanding this correctly, I guess the only problem I see with that is both entities need to trust that the user is indeed being truthful and not sharing a token. I think a system with a neutral third part that takes a token from the identity provider and a token from the webite, validates them and sends a result. Or maybe that is what you said.

    • John@lemmy.ml
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      4 months ago

      https://lemmy.ml/post/45007584/24779562

      You have to read between the lines. This just gives them the option to label anybody they want as a “bot” with virtually no way to challenge them. They can now ban anybody they wish for posting content they don’t agree with (pro-gaza, anti-israel, anti-capitalist, etc).

  • Skv@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Though I’m new here, lots of communities rules are copypasta from breddit, so what’s honestly different on here?