• acargitz@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    You yanks REALLY need to lose this one. Your noses need to be rubbed in it. You need to feel the SHIT you put the rest of us though. And you need to get seriously angry at the Israelis and rub THEIR noses in it. You need a big enough shock to CHANGE.

    (Like I know most of the people on Lemmy are not Republican idiots. I’m obviously not talking about you personally, but about the «general public opinion» in the US, especially the Republican idiots.)

    • DillDough@lemmy.zip
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      2 months ago

      You’re being too lenient. It’s not just Republicans, they’re only 1/3 of the population, the even bigger issue is the “moderate” and “apolitical” people that make up another 1/3…these people will loudly oppose anything and everything but blatant extreme right wing authoritarianism, in fact they’ll get more upset about the final 1/3 of the population that’s against authoritarianism than they will ever get at literal dictators.

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        2 months ago

        And you represent the real problem, in my opinion.

        bOtH pArTiEs need to stop treating independents like shit. It doesn’t help you. You REQUIRE independents to win, perhaps you should stop treating them with contempt? Maybe do what they want… like stop supporting Israel?

        You might THINK not supporting Israel is “blatant extreme right wing authoritarianism”, but independents don’t agree with you. Have a little respect… a tiny bit.

        Just an idea.

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      2 months ago

      In America, we punish the incumbents. BoTh PaRtIeS have told their own constituents to fuck off; membership of registered voters is at 30% each. Independents are now 40% of voters.

      Whoever wins the election tells the people who elected them to fuck off; so, we vote them out. That’s it. The new election winner then tells the people who elected them to fuck off, and so on.

      Examples: Biden runs with minimum wage increase as platform, wins, then tells everybody to fuck off.

      Trump then runs with “no war” as platform; wins, goes to war and tells his voters to fuck off.

      He will be replaced by a Democrat, who will then also tell their voters to fuck off.

      Repeat ad nauseam. Neither party does what they are elected to do and are then punished, to be replaced by the other party that will refuse to do what they were elected to do.

      We can’t vote ourselves out of this, unfortunately.

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        2 months ago

        He will be replaced by a Democrat, who will then also tell their voters to fuck off.

        The real political innovation here is that the Democratic party is telling its voters to fuck off before the next election.

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          2 months ago

          They don’t have anything to loose. Another Republican president? Great! They can sit on their asses for four more years writing angry tweets about how offended they are while telling voters to fuck off. Democrats win? Even better! Sit on their asses while insider trading and taking billionaire tributes while telling voters to fuck off. What a great system we have.