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The author raises some good questions about the licensing of the core utils. Why the MIT license? Why not stick to GNU GPL?
Ubuntu releases is personal fine for new or avarage users. But standard snaps is kinda bad. Should always be optional.
Ai slop
Ubuntu being shit for personal users is all but new (Who wants 2 year old software? I want upstream’s latest stable release. Who likes snap?). Ubuntu having higher hardware requirements than other distros is also not new (it’s the reason why I switched away from it over a decade ago). Ubuntu breaking stuff is also not new (big upgrades of ubuntu flavors have always been disrupting for me). Ubuntu shipping new premature things instead of being stable also feels not new to me.
Ubuntu is doing ubuntu things. It’s interesting to see how far it went. The video also has a bit of needless whining though (who cares about the different default for sudo asterisks, just change the setting).
Ubuntu being shit for personal users is all but new (Who wants 2 year old software?
A lot of people. From a snap I maintain:
So not only are some people fine with 2 year old software, they’re choosing to use 4 year old software more often than 6 month old software (granted in this second case, you can argue it’s because Ubuntu promotes the LTS as the main version).
That they are doing it doesn’t mean they want it this way. Ubuntu calls its half yearly releases unstable (or used to), which scares users off. Upgrading is also hard on ubuntu (compared to arch, where the set of installed packages stays (apart from renaming and similar) the same). And for the software where they need it, the users already use ppas, probably. And then there are the users who almost only use a browser. And there are enterprise users who don’t upgrade because not all of their software works on new ubuntu.
Not to unmask internet anonymity but I’m curious what sort of snap this is since that surely affects the user base and provides some context for these numbers.
But I think you’re probably right. From my experience, people that are not me(arch btw) using linux generally want something stable, not chasing updates or latest releases.
It’s a utility app that is that is available on Linux, Windows, MacOS, iOS, Android. It’s a decently popular app and is more likely to be used by regular people than in a business setting.
It’s in the top 50 most popular apps on Flathub.
I have no interest in watching quarter of an hour of clickbait nonsense, what’s the tldr besides the licencing non-issue?
This is a distro that received crap because of the transition to snaps and the whole Amazon shopping lens thing. There’s pretty stiff competition for “worst release”.
I really don’t know what to do for my next desktop distro.
I don’t use my PC exclusively for gaming. So things like Bazzite or Nobara are not my jam.
Arch-based distros seem too bleeding-edge. I don’t have that much free time to troubleshoot my PC. That’s why Ubuntu was so appealing to me. It just worked! Now I feel that with the latest LTS I’m going to be trapped into Canonical’s ecosystem with Snaps or risk borking my install. I hate this idea.
I might just move to Debian Stable. I don’t mind being a big behind if it means having a rock solid system. I’m also very used to the Debian packaging system. Also there’s no company behind it that might take it in a certain direction.
Alternatively there could be OpenSUSE Tumbleweed slow roll, but apparently it doesn’t play well with NVidia graphical drivers? I’m also not used to their ecosystem at all.
Tough decisions ahead.
I had the same way of thinking you do when I switched. I eventually landed on LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) because it just worked. Debian itself was too old to do some gaming stuff I wanted and Arch is too bleeding edge for my taste and amount of free time I have to throw at it.
LMDE gives you the rock solid experience with just enough updates to have an easy time with updates or occasional tinkering
Your comment is almost exactly the text for “why you should use fedora”. Not as bleeding edge as arch, not as behind as debian. A great balance.
Yeah. Either that or OpenSUSE. But I fer OpenSUSE might not have as big a user base as Fedora or as much user documentation.
Try Linux Mint (or LMDE).
Yeah but I really like the KDE Plasma desktop.
@ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace @Goodlucksil In my experience with Arch I never really had issues unless I fucked around with stuff I shouldnt. Sometimes I wanted to just mess with stuff and see what would happen. Normal daily use, no issues though.
Nowadays I use Alpine because I don’t want SystemD, which I would not recommend because it takes some doing to make stuff work right.
If you don’t need up-to-date new releases of software, Debian is totally fine. Fedora worked okay for me too, but fuck IBM and RedHat and such.
Yeah. Going to revisit Endeavour and Cachy along with some others.
Ubuntu is fine. Fair warning if you do go the debian route, upgrading from one Debian stable version to the next is not as easy as an Ubuntu distro-upgrade. But OTOH the Ubuntu upgrades are probably the riskiest part of ubuntu too.
Ubuntu won’t be fine on their next LTS release. Snap is becoming even more mandatory. I don’t have anything against Snap per se, but the way they’re forcing it and tricking users when using apt is not right.
bazzite is not just for gaming
it’s brilliant for everything
If Bazzite appeals to you except for the gaming orientation, look into the Fedora UniversalBlue spins.
Thanks, but Bazzite doesn’t really appeal to me. Fedora does have an official KDE Plasma desktop distro now though.
