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  • Calling them not human doesn’t help anything.

    Openly displaying the attitudes they have for all other people’s towards them is done as a reminder of their garbage dehumanising rhetoric.

    Just like you have a duty to punch a Nazi, you have a duty to dehumanise them.

    It’s not because we believe anyone should ever be dehumanised —and we loudly proclaim that is our actual belief, enshrined in international human rights laws — it’s because it’s a rhetorical reminder of what Nazis do.

    Like you say, of course they are people. In fact, the exact problem is the banality of evil. Historically pretty much a major portion of the Nazi party at it’s height were completely normal “law-abiding citizens”. Everyone knows what “I was just following orders” refers to. And that’s exactly it.

    Those people are using it as an excuse, like “no-one told me it was wrong or shocking, I was merely acting like any reasonable person would”.

    Had there been someone constantly yelling in their ear, about what cowardly shitbags they are, for not putting their life on the line, to resist the rhetoric coming from the actually fucked up psychopaths at the helm, maybe they couldn’t have reasonably used the “I’m just following orders” excuse.

    So yeah. We need to dehumanise them all. I wouldn’t dehumanise like a 100 year old granny who was a member in 1942 or anything, obviously, but as far as rhetoric on the internet goes? They’re not people. Anyone directly supporting actual Nazi rhetoric deserves to be dehumanised for that reason until they change their views.

    Evil is a human thing. No other animal does that.

    Quite a philosophically naive argument, no offense. Animals eat their kids. Dolphins rape fish. Mushrooms take over ants make them zombies. Chimps even have wars.

    But since you don’t think they possess the capacity to understand it’s “evil”, it’s not?

    So… a dumb Nazi isn’t an evil Nazi? Or if you dehumanise a Nazi, it makes their actions acceptable? I don’t really get where you’re going with that particular point. (Sorry, I’ve a pet peeve about the naturalistic fallacy.)


  • Nazis are actual real people.

    I could make an actual educated argument on how that’s literally not true, but it’d go into sophistry. Still, I definitely could.

    Talk like that is exactly what leads to Nazis in the first place

    No, it isn’t. It’s exaggerated rhetoric and a very appropriate response to legitimate Nazism.

    What YOU are doing is what lead to the Nazis in the first place. Thinking you can reason with Nazis. 20th century Germany had people who basically were forced to be a Nazi, no matter their personal ideologies. It’s understandable, but it’s not acceptable. And it’s very different having been in the party when the Nazis were in rule and voluntarily choosing to be one in modern times. Choosing to become a Nazi is so much worse than being somewhat afraid in Germany in 1942, and joining out of fear for your life.

    We know we’re purposefully exaggerating when we say Nazis aren’t people, and we know it. Nazis do not exaggerate with their calls to white supremacy.

    So the appropriate reply to Nazism is to utterly dehumanise and shame them, as much as humanly possible.












  • They’ve forgotten all the things they chanted to us aa kids; “don’t believe everything you read online.”

    Especially if she can sort of read English but isn’t too proficient, I’ve noticed that type goes harder for all the shit.

    And like someone pointed out, there’s a pretty well established pipeline from woowoo spirituality into right wing garbage.






  • Fucking Tulli is always making a huge deal out of anything they manage to do.

    This is one of the Finnish market places. One. And for instance I used international ones when I needed to use them, not Finnish ones. The Finnish ones are tiny as well.

    I remember when they genuinely proclaimed they have ended the import of benzodiazepines because of a shipment they caught, because they also got a guy.

    Ridiculous. It didn’t even impact the pricing, let alone shut down the trade lol.

    Whoever thinks the drug prohibition is worth it is a genuine moron. Or just ignorant. Usually a bit of both.


  • Well, let’s leave that up to the readers to decide, who are already agreeing with me, as indicated by the votes.

    I understand you have a feeling of wanting to be virtuous and showing off that sense of morality. However, fascism has an actual definition, which isn’t congruous with the one you are using.

    Perhaps you can see what you’re doing if I put it in an example that’s in a slightly different context: You calling Jimmy Carter a fascist is like vegans calling everyone who isn’t also a vegan “murderer”. Murder has a rather rigid definition; intentionally and directly ending the life of another human being. Eating a burger doesn’t get covered by that definition, no matter how much you stretch it’s limits. It might be immoral to eat meat and indirectly participate in the meat industry, but it is not murder, and Jimmy Carter was — by no reasonable definition — fascist.

    Vegans calling everyone who eats meat a murderer means they’d have no way of differentiating between people who intentionally kill other people, and people who… eat burgers. Can you foresee any problems if one actually lost the ability to differentiate between those things?