I’m going to guess the single downvote took you at face value, but that’s what happens when you live in a world like this one, where the Poe Principle applies and we sure can’t tell you from a real MAGAt.

Not everyone can be reached, but I don’t think no one can be reached either. It just takes the Dems growing a fucking spine, though, which is the harder lift, IMO.

I utterly disagree. For most people, the manual, wiki, or source code is undecipherable gibberish. For many others, it’s an investment of time they may or may not have. Even I, a seasoned tech vet, sometimes just want to have something work without having to sit down for hours to make it work. If I have a problem, I reach out to the community to see if someone else has had the problem I have had so I can benefit from their hours of labour to find the thing that fixes the problem. Your RTFM is just noise to their signal, which I could definitely do without. Respectfully, in the theme of the post we’re replying to. ;)

That’s the hope, but I’d not plan for it!

Got it in stereo, even. Yep. I agree. That’s why I put the ‘if they are willing to take it’ in. They most likely aren’t because of what you cited in your reply, though.

Indeed. Hence my ‘if they are willing to take it’ bit. They most likely aren’t.

This is a great article, more than just bait for “You voted for leopards eating faces and now you’re surprised that a leopard ate your face” comments.

There’s a great opportunity for Dems here, if they are willing to take it. Point out to the conservative little people that Trump’s friends are the rich and powerful and the little conservatives will get nothing and like it. Highlight that Trump is hurting farmers so he and his rich buddies can get a tax cut. Remind them that the GQP doesn’t care about people. It only exists to get stupid rich off of everyone’s labour.

What might be being protested? Lesse…

• Late Social Security cheques for people who depend on them to pay their bills. This includes elderly and disabled people.
• Lost jobs and the loss of the paycheques for people laid off by both DOGE and the economic chaos the shitgibbon in chief is producing.
• People who have done nothing wrong being sent to a gulag in El Salvadore, and everything that entails.
• Attacks and erasures on people’s gender identities. You won’t care of course, but many of us do because after they get done with people they tag with the foreigner label, they’re coming after transgendered people next, then after that, they’re coming after the rest of us. We’ve seen this play before. We’d like it to end without going to World War 3 to de-Nazify us.
• Attacks on our friends in Canada and Mexico and Europe and so on.
• Increasing inflation.
• Decreasing opportunities.
• Unelected billionaires trashing our government.
• Naked Fascist displays.

I could go on, but I know you’re not here to be enlightened. If you were, you’d just google that. I mean, I just used Gemini to give a report of some of the top reasons for protesting, and a comprehensive answer was presented to me in less than 10 seconds, so I’m sure you could go do so as well. Why might you not? Oh. Rule 3. I can’t answer that. :|

(I missed a few things that Gemini picked up on. The imposition of an unpopular ideologue playbook on the country. Cuts to agencies we all rely on. Those were two things I didn’t include. Goes to show there are even MORE reasons to protest, but I don’t want to spend more time than I have on this dishonest debater. My point was made.)

Getting very 1984 up in here…

Yuge, even! 🤣

Great suffering!

Senator Ocasio-Cortez has a nice ring to it.

I’m going to take a different tact here, just based on interactions with Canadians.

My Canadian friends know that I’m not a Trump supporter. They know that I have wanted to get out of the US for years now, and that I think the US has gone to shit and is now overrun by fascists. But that doesn’t mean they can exempt me from the hurt they need to put on the US. That’s not how it works. They’ve got to hit the USA back where it hurts, and that means in the pocketbook. And that means we all are in the brawl. They line up shoulder to shoulder and go elbows up because solidarity is where it’s at when your former buddies from across the way punch you in the face unexpectedly. What I don’t understand is how Americans could have expected Canadians to just roll over and take it. I mean, the Canadian national sport is Hockey, where going ‘elbows up’ is something you can expect on a regular basis. And we’re now in the virtual equivalent of a Hockey brawl (and can be in a very real one if we dare think we can just invade – last time we did that, they burned down the White House!).

31% of American voters aren’t the only people who need to suffer, either. You’re counting the 77m people who voted Trump in that number, and pointing out that 75m voted Harris. Well, what about the 2m who voted third part and the 90m+ people who stayed home? Doncha think those people have some responsibility for Trump? And how exactly are the Canadians and Europeans supposed to know which group you are part of? You say you voted Harris, but you can’t prove that (and shouldn’t want to with the rise of Fascism). You could be a closet Trump supporter that just SAYS you are a Harris supporter, and nobody would know better.

So, in summary, yes. As a Harris voter, you are gonna have to feel the heat from Canada and Europe and the rest of the civilised world. They can’t avoid targeting you when they target the entire USA. You’re an American, and right now, they have to worry about their people and not the fraction of the USA that voted to stay sane. The best they can do is try to rescue the ‘good’ Americans, but right now, even that’s a step too far because American economics has infected them to the point that they can’t even house their own populace. So, rather than getting mad at Canadians and Europeans, let’s get mad at the real perps here, the shitgibbon and his merry band of miscreants and everyone who enabled that bunch of assholes by voting for them, voting third party, or staying home.

Fair point. I did misread ‘one on one’ to mean Democrat vs Republican with ‘stepping back’ to mean viewing Third Parties.

I totally agree with your reasoning, as it was my reasoning. The guy is old, not a debate. He’s a gaffe machine, too. Some people pushed the meme he was losing a step, but while I saw him as old, I didn’t see him as washed up or senile. The guy just doesn’t know how to NOT put his foot in his mouth (I share a lot in common with him on that regard!!!), and there were an awful lot of bad-faith actors saying that he wasn’t just old, but senile as well. They’re still around, saying he’s too old and senile to run the show now, and he should resign.

I think how Harris is being treated by various people on and offline should be a key indicator that Biden’s resignation wasn’t the end of the bullshit factories. They each have their own desires for their choice of President, and they can’t even agree with each other who that choice is. Some will scream for Sanders. Others will scream for Stein. Some particularly pigeon-holed ones will argue for Fruit, despite her being mathematically eliminated from 270 before the first vote is cast. And lets get real. There are all to many of them who will tell you “IMMA FOR JILL” or some other tiny Third Party candidate while actually wanting Trump. Some think that a Trump presidency will lead them to the Progressive Promised Land. Others…are here to ensure we’re so busy infighting that we can’t put a unified resistance up, so they can get the Handmaiden’s Tale they desparately want.

If Biden gave up because America is dumb, I don’t blame him. In 2016, I tried hard to get out and get to Canada or New Zealand. But now Canada and New Zealand are overrun or about to be overrun by dumb people too. :|

This poster thinks I didn’t know. But how can it know that. I just pointed out that there were literally hundreds of articles, then correctly cited the date. It’s not making the point it thinks it’s making. The media covered both idiots that took the pot shots at the Trumpster Fire. To the tune of hundreds of articles.

Folks, win or lose, the aftermath of election day will be a shitshow. I’ve written up a guide for how to survive Election Day 2024. The TL;DR: form is prepare for a hurricane or blizzard, with a nod to crazy people by preparing for self-defence, then be ready to hunker down. Election 2024 promises to be crazy, given how 2020 went down. Please look after yourselves!

I’m misgendering this poster because it insists that I am just like Republicans. Which is a fucking lie. And another violation of Rule 3. Is the poster can’t take it, don’t dish it. And maybe stop using its transgenderness as a cover for its incivility!

I’ll let it have the last word now.

You think you have a big gotcha here, but it was covered extensively when it happened. The google (or Bing in this case)(you don’t want us to do returns over 10 pages of results, including articles from:

• NBC News (top result)
• US News
• AP News
• Wikipedia
• CNN
• NY Times
• LA Times (literally, coast to coast here)
• NPR
• Reuters
• Fox News (of course…)
• Politico

Some of these sources wrote more than one article, with at least three by CNN and two by NPR.

You might think none of us know that Trump came close to assassination on 2024-09-15, but did you know that Trump didn’t tell his secret service detail he was going to the golf course, so they didn’t do a perimeter sweep before he got out there? They only found the shooter because Trump was finishing up one hole and they rushed to the next and spotted the would-be assassin.

Well, Trump has already killed millions of people with his stupidity. What’s a few more?

This poster doubles down. It doesn’t care to show me civility or respect, and instead makes thinly veiled insults at me and my father, which of course it knows nothing about. And then it expects me to do it the kindness of taking it at face value.

Like I told the last poster that tried this tact with me, we’re on the internet, where the men are men, the women are men, the children are FBI agents, of course this poster is a transgender Russian expat, and nobody, and I mean nobody knows I’m a cat. If it’s going to call me a xenophobe and a conservative, then it’ll have to deal with being treated as something it’s not too. It can either stop being a jerk to me, or it can block me. But it won’t be calling me a xenophobic conservative without SOME response, as hampered as that response may be by the rules of this community.