Using Brave since years ago and it goes pretty smooth, good for them but first they should get out of Apple brand tbh.
But still isn’t it a safari reskin!!
No because the EU forced them to actually allow the browser engines. It turns out that somebody with an actual brain was behind the policy decision.
Shockingly it turns out that despite what apple always claimed it was actually perfectly possible and weirdly isn’t actually a security threat after all, who knew.
I don’t think people can develop a browser engine that fast, and apple is still scrambling to figure out the least amount of compliance to avoid legal trouble.
So I doubt they are using a different engine at this moment.
You can doubt all you want, but devs have had functioning alternative engines in dev environments for ages. Apple just would not allow them.
What do you mean “develop” they already have the engine on desktop and on Android
I think porting it to iOS still probably takes time, but I am happy to be proven wrong if you have source stating that brave is not using webkit on iOS.
The porting has probably already been done, as sideloading apps, while difficult, was still possible. It’d make sense to have something waiting in the wings, so to speak. So it’s doubtful iOS development has just started.
You are right, blink is ported, but it seems like gecko is not there yet.
- https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/firefox-ios/issues/19063
- https://9to5google.com/2023/03/03/first-look-google-chrome-blink-engine-iphone-ios/
But brave still uses webkit as of now, according to wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)
I dont know wtf this is about; I have NEVER had a problem switching default browsers in ANY environment.
After you install the 17.4 update or when setting up the phone it’ll ask what browser you want as your deafult. Before this and still in other countries you have to manually search and download a browser and set it as the default.
I was a bit confused too. So all that’s changed is a specific splash screen during new phone setup prompting the user to pick a default browser?
yes, because the average user doesn’t even know there are different browsers, and that they can change the default one, which is great to “vendor lock” your own browser, in this case Safari from iOS
Gotcha, but even in that case, what’s convincing most of those average users from picking a different browser? The logo? “Ooh pretty lion?”
Hell you dealing with iPhone users here, they barely know that the device they use in this technically a computer. You’ve got to basically spoon feed them basic stuff like other browsers exist.
IPhone and Mac users in general. A friend of mine was an Apple sales rep for many many years and holy crap I dont know how he didnt go on a killing spree
I used to work for Apple technical support and the stupidity of your average Apple user drive me up the wall, it’s left me with a very negative view of their clientele.
My favorite was the person that threatened to sue me personally because he had dropped his iPhone on a glass table and it had broken the glass table and the iPhone. And he was mad that Apple wouldn’t cover his costs.
Some might be aware others exist but not be quite tech savvy enough to figure out how to have it be the default. I downloaded Firefox for my ex on her phone but the default was still chrome so whenever she clicked a link on an app it would just open on chrome. If this pop up had happened she would have chosen to make Firefox her main browser when opening links and stuff. She did use it when browsing normally, Chrome was just the default for all other apps.
I’m so glad they included a key otherwise I wouldn’t know what the green line represented.
There is zero reason to switch browsers on iOS, They all run the same engine. Safari also has extensions (which I believe 3rd party browsers can’t use).
Normal people don’t choose the browser based on the underlying engine
They all run the same engine for now. The EU wants to ban that too.
Eh, that’s not true. Yes they run on the same engine, but there can still be different features overlaid on top, plus syncing history/bookmarks with your other devices.
The engine is by far the biggest part of a browser, but it is not the only part of a browser.
Also, EU users will soon have access to “real” different browsers.
Again, this is why this law was such a big deal. Prior to this you were correct. Thanks to the DMA, you are wrong. Firefox will be running Gecko, and Vivaldi, Brave, Chrome, etc are allowed to ship their flavors of chromium.
*in the EU
They are probably just trying to pump their token with these posts.
They might be, but they are also right.
I don’t think this is a good thing, brave is good out of the box but do not provide good browsing experience
I hate how they cut off the graph…
At least it’s drawn to scale, but yeah I get it. Starting at 7k probably makes it easier to read.
Yeah, that graph is sus af
Reminder that this graph does not start at zero. Still a ~40% increase.
take home message from this graph: if we shift the graph down by ~7K, you can see that we have roughly increased our user base by a factor of 100!
9.33262154 × 10157% is a pretty sick increase, all things considered.
I don’t use Brave due to lack of uBlock Origin support. Otherwise it seems like a decent browser.
Thing is, on iOS, at least in the past, Firefox had no uBlock origin support, which pushed Brave’s adblocking capability to the #1 spot.
Not just in the past, you still can’t install addons in (any browser) on iOS. brave is basically the only option because it adblocks without addons.
makes sense
3,000 people clicked a button out of curiosity or by mistake. If this is statistically relevant for their install base, there really is nobody using Brave. I have as many users randomly come and go into my game on a daily basis.
Maybe Europeans like crypto scamware
Brave is garbage. It’s a cryptoscam adscam browser based on Chrome. For the love of god, use Firefox (or Vivaldi if you absolutely need chromium)
At least on android Firefox has Google tracking built into the app among much other tracking/ads. If you don’t like Brave you may want to consider a Firefox fork. On IOS Brave is the only big browser with competent adblock afaik until/unless Firefox gets extensions going.
I’m not sure if fennec has it, it’s the core Firefox android build that is not published to the store.
Fennec doesn’t have any of it (Google Analytics, Pocket, Mozilla Tracking), which is why it’s my choice of mobile browser. It’s on FDroid
On IOS Brave is the only big browser with competent adblock afaik until/unless Firefox gets extensions going.
Safari + AdGuard gave me no issues so far.
Safari ain’t perfect but it’s leagues better than brave
Brave on iOS is one of the more legitimate ways of getting an ad blocker
Check out Orion! Firefox and Chrime add on support.
Edit: Also like Vivaldi. If you want device wide I can highly recommend NextDNS
Firefox has adblockers on mobile
Firefos add-ons don’t work on iOS, I literally just googled it to ensure I was informed before writing what you wrote.
I see. Another reaffirmation in my choice to not use iphone.
I have an android from 2018, it still works great and I can run adblock on firefox, eat shit apple!
I can’t say I disagree, I’ve long abandoned it on my PC.
But Brave has superb AdBlocking capabilities compared to every other browser for iPhone, so I’m still using it on my phone.
But Brave has superb AdBlocking capabilities compared to every other browser for iPhone
It is the same on android, it even lets me watch youtube vids without ads and in the background.
On Android you can use Firefox + uBlock Origin now
I just used YouTube revanced and set default YouTube links to go there
Las time I could not watch youtube vids in the background in firefox.
I also had trouble getting files that download multiple files at once to work on firefox.
whats wrong with chromium?
It allows Google to continue controlling the Internet.
Unfortunately brave has the best desktop layout when using Samsung DeX.
Better than Kiwi?
Oh, haven’t tried that one. I have just experienced the awful the aspect ratio on Firefox.
@AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml @FatCat@lemmy.world Brave may have its flaws but at least it has an offline Dino game, what does Firefox have?
an offline breakout game
Are you saying you don’t like Firefox because they don’t like propaganda?
No.
*Links article about one of the best takes ever made by an online company
Wild
Cope and Seethe
Brave is great, has configurable keybinds, nice default adblock block list, vertical tabs, syncing sessions without email, etc.
And on android it can play youtube vids on the background.
The crypto ads just get disabled on the new tab page, you don’t even have to go to the settings lol. And vivaldi is partially closed source btw.
There are crypto ads involved in the product though? Fuck that, even if it was default off
Brave is an interesting case, they found a way to make money that doesn’t involve tracking their users, making deals with google or be closed source lol
If you hate that fine, I definitely prefer that than the other alternatives lol.
Still wouldn’t touch Brave Browser due to their past crypto shenanigans.
Please forgive my ignorance. Can’t you shut that shit off? Does shenanigans still apply?
They apply after you shut them off
it’s was not hard. you just install one and tap “always” the next time you open a link to set it as the default
Many if not most users were unaware of this possibility though.
I used to use brave before they were soured. Ther BAT token disappearing from my account was another nail in the coffin.
Arguably soured from the very beginning depending on how much you care about the CEO financially supporting a bill to strip gay people of their right to marry, plus supporting a politician who said that AIDS is good because it cleanses the earth of gay people.