WHAT??? You guys don’t put glue in your pizzas??
I barely use Google now. I’m on Yandex or DuckDuckGo. Yandex is probably the best right now for me.
…Yandex…?
Yeh, you don’t like it?
It’s Russian. Doesn’t really matter how good it is, personally I would stay far away from it.
Fair, but for war or other fucked up content its the only search engine that gets me what I’m looking for.
… yes they said yandex what of it?
This should give hope to all of those people who have been worrying about AI taking their jobs away.
It doesn’t matter how good technology gets, it will always be merely a tool. Humans will still be necessary in the future.
That’s where we currently are but there isn’t any limitation on the tech that means this will always be the case.
It will certainly change the way we work, yes, but that’s always been the case with any disruptive technology in the past.
20-30 years ago, people were already worried that computers would replace people, because they could automate away menial office jobs like invoicing and book keeping. Yet those jobs still exist, because computers can’t be trusted to work completely autonomically. Meanwhile, a whole lot of new jobs were created in the IT sector as result of those computers needing to be programmed, updated, and maintained.
When cars came around and started replacing horse buggies, people were also worried because it would make horse breeders, stables, blacksmiths, etc. obsolete, but of course it just ended up created a new industry consisting of gas stations, car dealerships, and garages instead.
So yes, some people might lose their jobs because what they’re doing now will become obsolete, but there will almost certainly be new ones created instead. As long as you’re willing to adapt and change with the times, you’re never going to end up with nothing to do.
Damn advent of agriculture putting the poor hunter-gatherers out of work smdh
Copilot gives a four step solution then finishes with “glue is not the answer”.
uh oh!
The future lawsuits, I can see them already, and they will be wild.
AI is the new scam after crypto, nft, etc. The technology isn’t to blame itself. It can have some useful case for sure.
The real issue is the Market™, the belief in infinite grow. We arrived at the point of no return, where infinite grow is impossible. Humans like to challenge impossible. They will try to find whatever is possible to tackle the impossible. In our case, humans try to create grow artificially with crypto, nft, ai, and all the others. Because, it’s the only way to have a minimalist grow for the shareholders and investors. Billions of not trillions were invested in Google and the others AI companies to milk the last drop for some dividend. Short term dividends should have wrote.
These bad search results are not to serve the general interest. It’s here to serve these investments and return the last profit possible of dogma of infinity in a finite world. It does indicate how bad the situation became for the economy. They are the cracks leaking the end of an era. They are symptomatic.
Yup. I think this is what always happens when the smart people leave a company and the only people left are “the line must always go up” business idiots who don’t understand what they have or how it works.
It sounds… impossible to defeat this darker side of human nature, in order to grow into a mature species worthy of restoring and responsibly maintaining this garden planet.
I think most humans aren’t like that, it’s just that the ones that are have managed to structure society to reward their behavior. We need to get these vile, greed driven ghouls, out of positions of power to get anywhere.
Lots of humans even with good academia are followers. They follow the mass. It’s not idiotic. If the group does this, it should not be bad or present a risk. It’s quite rational. If people eat apples, it’s safe and I can eat them too.
They use a similar reflexion with our socio-economical system. They follow.
It depends on whom we follow. Here, sociopathy plays a role. They are often more prompt to embrace power and favor selfishness.
The problem is that non-sociopaths don’t seek power. Public service is looked down upon.
Yeah. Like the old adage of whoever seeks power is least deserving of it. It’s a difficult thing to combat.
I can’t remember if it was Asimov or Heinlein (maybe Clarke), but one of them said that an elected official should be drug into office kicking and screaming, and only be allowed to leave when they’ve done a good job.
prolly Heinlein, wierdo sex type, but some useful ideas…
It sounds… impossible to defeat this darker side of human nature
Capitalist ideology is so hardwired into most of us that it seems easier to accept the end of the world than the end of capitalism itself
End of the world? Sounds like the end of capitalism to me. Where do we sign up?
The internet and technology moved on. We reached a point where google is obsolete. Google decided to cancel any product they had, that was not as successful as their ads space and now they have nothing else left. Is there even one service left that google is leading in? Maybe chromium browser and that’s it. Yet one can easily switch to Firefox right now.
I guess they are leading in E-Mail? Whatever that is worth I am not sure. And Youtube is pretty much toe to toe with TikTok so they have that going for them which is nice. But yeah they’ve done a pretty bad job at making themselves indispensable. If anything they‘re looking far more dispensable than ever. Still huge, but their future is rather uncertain.
Their integrated drive+mail+docs+forms+… cloud system is not the first or maybe the best one out there, but it’s very popular and I like it more than the competition for some of their key decisions. More obscure things are their accessible API anyone can use, some free computing power they provide for experiments, their analytics system for marketing, and their benchmarks of how fast the page loads being a standard. There’s probably Scholar somewhere here but I haven’t used it. Android gets installed everywhere even if it’s unreasonable. Search is their major brand, but they have fingers in many buckets.
I’m confused a little by the LLM’s and datasets here.
OpenAI and Reddit have their partnership for training, so I would have assumed the pizza glue answer would have come from an OpenAI result, but Google doesn’t use OpenAI. How did Google give an answer that was clearly scraped from Reddit?
Google has a deal with reddit as well. https://www.reuters.com/technology/reddit-ai-content-licensing-deal-with-google-sources-say-2024-02-22/?utm_source=reddit.com
But I don’t think it’s just an issue with the dataset. It’s the false promise of these LLMs having a fucking clue what a good search result is and what is not. They don’t. They are just good at creating text that sounds plausible. That’s not what searching for factually correct information is about though.
They’re trying to compete with open AI which they shouldn’t be… They’re a marketing firm with a search engine.
Maybe the problem is a lot of their marketing relies on the dominance of their search engine (ie sponsored search results, and ads based on user searches, as well as tracking user web usage via their search click throughs and other cookies). If open ai’s products become the go to for questions and basic searches, they will eventually be able to use that dominance to include marketing results in their answers. I think this threat is why they want to try to compete with them to be able to offer an alternative. Because it doesn’t actually have to be better than chat gpt. It just has to be similar enough for people to continue using Google rather than change their habits to use chatgpt, or Microsoft’s implementations of it. Especially with windows 11 where copilot (basically Microsoft rebrand of chatgpt) is built in and you can use it from the task bar. That ease of use may steadily decrease people’s reliance on Google search, which will eventually hurt their ability to sell targeted ads.
Why does this company suck at AI even more than the other companies? Android has had machine learning for years already.
The answer received for the pizza glue query appears to be based on a comment from a user named “fucksmith” in a more than decade-old Reddit thread, and they’re clearly joking.
Lol. And this is Google, the company that has spent decades engineering ways to sift good information from bad on the internet.
In that process they went through a full circle of first establishing and then gradually reducing it’s usability and the health of the web itself. Their sometimes obscure ranking of pages enabled SEO, then AI written articles and now they try to replace the need to click on any site at all with THAT. A very interesting saga.
They figured out that they make much more money just pandering ads and lying how they are related to people’s interests than they would make when actually providing an invaluable service to humankind. Now, instead of information, we are stuck with paid-for results and SEO-optimized keyword spammers that want a crumb of that cake. I think the free market calls this “innovation” or some shit.
I kind of assumed it was based on one of those ‘how they photograph food’ articles that pops up every so often with shaving cream instead of whip cream and motor oil instead of pancake syrup. Pretty sure I’ve seen one where they mix glue in the pizza cheese to make it more stringy.
Why would we believe the promises of the ones who ruined the primary utility of their core product in the first place, and convinced or blackmailed the rest of the internet to take part in the ruination ? An advertising corporation will tell us to put cyanide on our pizza if it makes them an extra buck this quarter, and google is worse than that. Profit despite the social costs is doing no evil /s
“Don’t be evil”
Shit writes itself.
Except it’s still in their writing, just not front and center like it was before, right?
They changed it to “Do the right thing” which literally makes it less original but more importantly, more pliable, “do the right thing… for ‘google’.”
Im shure the CEO is “doing the right thing… for his wallet”
That was removed as their motto in 2018, following a restructuring of Google as a subsidiary of Alphabet.
It actually wasn’t, I used to think that as well, but they just moved it to a different section of their Code of Conduct, out of the Preface. Part of the reason so many people think it was removed is because of the countless headlines saying it was removed…
(from the preface)
They did violate federal labor laws by firing 3 employees who brought forth a lawsuit alleging the clause was a contractual obligation, though. So that sucks.
It may be in their code of conduct, but that’s not their motto. As of 2015, their motto is “Do the right thing.”
I said it back then and I’ll say it again: Calling your mega corporation “Alphabet” sounds hella distopian
Gee, what other organizations are called Alphabet agencies, bureaus, or depatments?
The main reason for the name is that it sorts before both Amazon and Apple in the Big Tech directory. It’s literally as petty as that. They obviously chose a word that was related to searching within that criterion, but still.
How about “Abysmal”?
I thought it was because .xyz had recently become a tld and she they loved the sound of abc.xyz
It’s honestly weird to imagine them being concerned with branding at all because they are literally an umbrella corporation that doesn’t seem to interface with customers directly. Like I never think about them and I suspect having regular people think more about them would not be good for them in any way.
“Alphabet” works for that in my head because it slides off my brain. I forget they exist until something reminds me.
It’s for investors.
Flavour your glue people!
i look forward to seeing this suggestion in shitty google ai overviews in the future.
I like to melt a little pecorino into my glue, the salty sharpness really complements the glue flavor
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