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    Both Trump and Clinton are known to have dined at the mansion of Epstein, on his pedophile island. We’re all supposed to sit back, and pick a side to support during election season, while we work our middle class jobs, and barely make enough to support ourselves? Why do we all have to take a backseat to this sh_tshow every four years? Why are we all second class citizens to this charade? We’re all lucky if we weren’t plucked from our beds in the 90’s to be held hostage at those shindigs, when we were little children.

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      Here’s what even a casual search turned up about convicted liar Trump and paedophile enabler Epstein:

      In 2002, Trump told New York Magazine, “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” adding that Epstein had a reputation for young women.

      In one of the emails, summarized below by attorneys representing Alan Dershowitz, Ransome said her friend was one of “many girls” Trump had sex with, claimed the friend regularly had sex with Trump at Epstein’s mansion, and shared other NSFW details about Trump’s sexual proclivities:

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    Republicans are NOT in a Cult and TOTALLY think for Themselves and they BELIEVE this while wearing “Lock Her Up” shirts!

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    How can someone with this big memory holes want to become president? Oh well, yeah, Olaf Scholz, oh. I’ll shut up.

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    Even for Trump, this one is a lot. It was essentially his campaign slogan. He didn’t just say it, he led chants of it in front of crowds.

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            No, you don’t understand. He is occasionally rude to both high ranking republicans and democrats on twitter and in fox news interviews. That means he’s tough on the establishment, duh 🙄

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            Former President Donald Trump asked oil industry executives last month to donate $1 billion to aid his campaign to retake the White House… The oil industry has a long list of policy actions it would want Trump to take, including dismantling parts of President Joe Biden’s green agenda and rolling back pollution regulations that threaten to crimp their profits.

            Yeah, he’s going after the establishment… Lmfao

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          I need you to show some examples please. For all I know, Trump is The Swamp incarnate. Gave his family and friends high positions in the government, spent millions of tax payer money for trips to places owned by him so he directly profited from every trip. He and his family took donations (and likely bribes) from the rich and poweful both in and outside the US and his policies are super good for the rich and bad for the poor. How anyone can think he’s “anti-establishment” is beyond me. The establishment is paying him to do what he does.

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            Hillary, Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Chris Christie, Dan Crenshaw, etc… to name a few people. Replaced NAFTA. Cut taxes. Allowed Canadian prescription drugs to come into the U.S., cutting the cost of prescription drugs - biggest drop in half a century. Reformed Clinton-era Crime bill which lowered the prison rate for Black Americans. Signed the VA Accountability Act and removed more than 2,500 employees for misconduct and poor performance. Did not start wars. Built relationships with the Middle East and was the only president ballsy enough to enter North Korean territory to have diplomacy with Kim Jong Un. He protected Medicare and Social Security—including from socialist “Medicare-for-All” schemes, which would kick 180 million Americans off their health plans. These are some of the things that Trump did that the Establishment REFUSED to do.

            Trump was and still is for the People.

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          Probably cause it never even came close to happening? Gullible rubes like you wanted it to happen really bad and then imagined it when it didn’t.

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    One of the memes that has followed Trump for almost a decade is “Lock her up!” Is he truly this lost that he forgot one of the things he ran for president (and won) chanting?

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      He truly believes his base doesn’t care, and they don’t.

      We have always been at war with Eureast Asia.

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    LIED. He LIED, CNN. Say it!

    “Falsely claimed” for fuck’s sake, you spineless republiQan sewer holes.

    It’s been almost a goddamned decade CNN! WaPo? NYT? Looking at all you “falsely claimed” motherfuckers. When are you going to grow up? Hm? When are you going to actually do the work of journalism instead of your paper-thin republiQan brigading?

    • “Lied” implies intent, which is a very squishy subject. I’d prefer they stick to just the facts, please. I’m no lawyer, but I suspect you might be asking for libel suits if you claim somebody lied and can’t actually prove that they did so intentionally.

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        In a weird way I agree with both you and the person you replied to. My own personal doublethink, I suppose.

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        Let me get this straight: You’re not sure whether Trump did deliberately claim that he didn’t say, repeatedly, often, publicly, on the TV and on social media “lock her up”? You think he accidentally denied saying it, or you have come to doubt your recollection of “LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!”?

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          I’m thinking it doesn’t matter what we think, it matters which one could accrue expensive court costs. Because “false claim” is specific and provable, “lied” is murky and general. When it comes to libel and slander lawsuits, the legal system runs on semantics and pedantry.

          Why should they open themselves to that kind of legal system enabled retribution? After all, we all know whose pants are on fire.

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            Trump would most definitely lose a libel case trying to claim that his obvious lie with transparent self-serving motivation was accidental or correct. He’s way too deep in legal costs and court cases to make an absurd suit like that, and there’s no point doing it because he doesn’t care that people know he’s an out and out liar.

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              A libel case is different.

              The problem is Trump could claim “oops I forgot that I agreed with the crowd in 2016” and that is different than intentionally lying. That’s why journalists have to split hairs here; George Santos can be called a liar but saying Trump lied this time is harder. It opens a can of worms; when Biden inevitably gets a detail wrong in another story of his should they call him a liar?

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                This isn’t a detail, this was a campaign slogan. No one in their right mind would believe Trump didn’t know exactly what he was doing both then and now. Stop trying to introduce doubt where there is none, it’s absurd. (And no, he doesn’t want to spend more time and money in court right now.)

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        They accuse them of bad journalism. Supposing intent you can’t prove is the definition of bad journalism. People need to temper their instinctual emotions a bit. I’m upset about Trump being a serial liar too (which I can say, because I’m a nobody who can totally infer his intent) but cmon, can we not leave the very foundations of factual journalism in the dust in our quest to right that wrong?

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            Why does journalism need to spoonfeed people? Why can’t we take accountability? They report the facts. Facts are provable, with evidence. You can only very, very rarely prove intent with evidence. A lie is an untruth delivered with intent. They cannot prove that and as such should not report it. We, as readers, should then piece the facts together. They’re giving you facts, not teaching you how to think. It’s not their job.

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                Of course you can prove he said that. That’s the untruth. Can you prove he knew he lied? You and I know that because it’s clear as day and we don’t need strict evidence, but journalists do because their job is to report facts and not assumptions, even obvious ones. It’s your job as a reader to take those facts and the surrounding context to construct what happened. They should not have to spoonfeed this to us in the exact verbiage we want just because we want to score a few more points because CNN said “lie”.

                And you should genuinely be ashamed of your reading comprehension. Your response does not make sense considering what I wrote above. I addressed that directly.

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                  You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to find reasons to preposterously believe that Trump accidentally lied. We all know this is an outrageous lie. We all know he’s an outrageous liar. I’m not asking CNN or you to say so, though, I’m asking you not to overcomplicate a very simple, very obvious lie which has a very obvious motivation. No sane or rational judge or jury is going to believe that Trump was mistaken or that he told this untruth for anything other than self-serving reasons, and Trump isn’t going to sue CNN for libel on this open-and-shut case lie because he’s neck-deep in legal costs and court cases already.