Didn’t french minister Robbespierre say and act same in french revolution aera? Before he was executed by his own people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Abdulrahman_al-Awlaki
What a president can do to the least of us they will do to the rest of us.
Who was with his terrorist father in Yemen at the time. This isn’t exactly murder most foul.
Because his dad was part of al qaeda the kid deserved to die? That’s totally not fucked up at all
It’s not about deserving it. His dad took him to a war zone while he was working for a non state military. Not everything is personal or even about the person who gets killed in a warzone. Soldiers call it rolling the dice for a reason. The bomb on the roadside goes off. Does it hit the humvee with the gun crew, or the cargo truck carrying refugees? Nobody knows until it happens. One is seen as a normal part of war and the other as something despicable. But the difference is less than a second. Nobody woke up that day and said, “today we’re going to kill that kid”.
You don’t think the US military has the capabilities to know exactly who and what they’re striking?
Who was with his terrorist father in Yemen at the time
According to the United States government, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki’s father, Anwar al-Awlaki, was a leader of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.[2] Anwar al-Awlaki was killed by a CIA drone strike several days before his son’s death.[3]
You could try not being disingenuous and read a couple more sentences.
the target of the October 14, 2011, airstrike was Ibrahim al-Banna, an Egyptian believed to be a senior operative in al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.[7] Another U.S. administration official speaking on condition of anonymity described Abdulrahman al-Awlaki as a bystander who was “in the wrong place at the wrong time”, stating that “the U.S. government did not know that Mr. Awlaki’s son was there” before the airstrike was ordered.[
He was there because his father brought him there. Nobody was aiming for him.
You could try not being disingenuous
Right back atcha.
What you said:
Who was with his terrorist father in Yemen at the time
Which is blatantly untrue
Oh for shit’s sake taking refuge in semantics when you know damn well the word could mean either thing is ridiculous. I’m not going to waste ten comments explaining the exact meaning of the word “time” in this specific case while you just keep throwing No True Scotsman at it.
the word could mean either thing
it can literally only mean the one thing. His father had been dead for days, you claimed otherwise as thought it justified what happened.
No True Scotsman at it.
Showing how intelligent you are with random fallacy name dropping.
Lmao. No.
He was a US citizen.
The military should not be drone striking its own citizens, no matter what they’re suspected of. He had the right to a trial.
Actually, joining an enemy military strips you of your citizenship. But even then, it’s not a stable area. You can’t just ring up the Yemeni police to go arrest them and the NYPD is going to laugh at you. So you call on the guys who can reach the area. Problem, they’re the military and this is a war. So even without the first sentence we’re back to using a missile instead of the police because nobody is going to commit suicide for this and we’re not going to let them operate freely on the notion that we’re not allowed to fight that particular enemy.
Which is why joining an enemy military is an automatic loss of citizenship.
When did Al-Qaeda become a military? It’s a terrorist organization.
And when did it become a war. Congress hasn’t declared a war since World War 2. Legally, all of killing in the Middle East has been done under the guise of military policing actions.
Are we going to drone strike proud boy leaders now? They did try to overthrow the US government a few years ago. Oh wait, they just got slaps on the wrist.
So do we only blow up US citizens and deny them their rights when it would be difficult to get them? I guess the FBI can stop spending so much money on training agents to apprehend suspects, if they’re running or have already fled the country, we’ll just assassinate them because that’s way easier and safer.
The fact that this guy, regardless of what he did, was assassinated on the orders of a US president, and nothing happened, should be deeply disturbing. You don’t have rights if someone can just blow you up from out of nowhere for any reason. You just have privileges that can be revoked at any time.
He had the right to a trial. Not a privilege to have one, a right. An attempt to apprehend him should have at least been made.
Nobody said you had to be connected to a geographic state to be a military.
An AUMF is a declaration of war. Read the War Powers Act. The Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war. It does not require Congress to use a set of magic words.
The proud boys are fucking infants in comparison to Al Qaeda, they’re also well within reach of law enforcement agents. But if you want to know for real, check out the times governors have deployed the National Guard for an armed stand off. There is absolutely a military remedy to a domestic insurrection in US law. We do try to avoid that but if someone really pushed it they would take the leash off the military.
This is also a far cry from FBI agents working with police in developing countries. This isn’t trying to figure out which Argentinian cop would tip off the arrest target. This is the Yemeni militia laughing at the FBI agents while letting AQ know there are Americans around to be captured.
Again. Nobody is going to commit suicide to provide you with a trial if you are actively making war against the US. Nor have they ever been required to because that is an insane imposition to the defense of the country. Reducing this to a manhunt ended for the sake of convenience is a straw man. You’d have a point if this happened somewhere like India. But it didn’t. And we’re under no obligation to let the enemy keep operating on the hope they travel to the wrong country.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Killing_of_Nawar_al-Awlaki&diffonly=true
Remember this 8 year old girl who was killed?
Why is it that those who are most vocal about being American don’t understand what that means?
Because idiots think they’re better than everyone.
There’s a name for that.
Ex Trump official confirms what we all assumed …
FTFY
Kaitlan Collins, to her credit, interviewed Bill Barr and asked about an anecdote that I had shared about a meeting he and I were both in the Oval Office, where Trump straight up said a staffer who leaked a story should be executed. And Bill Barr kind of danced it and said I don’t recall that specific instance, but there were others where we talked about executing people. How do you rationalize that is a person fit in sound judgment to be president of the United States?
Not stunning to anyone who’s paid attention. So I bet there’s lots of people who are deeply shocked by this.
That assumes they are paying attention to this.
That’s the joke 😉
Yeah… it’s a joke that makes me sad though.
Morose humor is simply a way to deal with tragedy and sadness. It’s often the most we can do for ourselves or anyone else in such situations. Seeing as in this situation especially it would require to impress upon people the importance of Being educated in general and about specific things that they have no interest in. Both of which are generally out of our control. So we all just default to recognizing the absurdity.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not faulting you or anything… it’s both absurd and sad that major alarm bells have been going off about Trump for a very long time and a lot of people don’t notice or look the other way.
Better to laugh than cry I guess.
I didn’t think you were :-) and unfortunately Trump is just the most recent symptom. It’s been going on for longer than even my parents have been alive. And they were born in the late 40s and early 50s. At least here in the US.
Grandpappy Bush was tied to a coup in the 30s
But Biden is old and, according to this poll, unexciting
How will I decide
Or the ones who say they can’t vote for Biden because he’s not doing the things he’s not got the power to do. All in pursuit of some ephemeral moral High Ground. Which they think exonerates them of all the genocide and killing that will still happen. Possibly even increase if such actions were to be taken.
They all think they’ve got a simple easily implementable answer to all the problems. Despite the best minds of generations of people having been unable to actually solve it. The ignorance and hubris is palpable.
I think the easiest and most simple to implement solution to all this. Would be to time travel back to the selection of places for Israel to be carved out of. And hard veto Palestine somehow.
He can just stop delivering weapons. It’s not even hard.
What you don’t understand, is that they’ll still get delivered. Wait…. I’m pretty sure you DO understand this. But it really messes up your propaganda if you were to admit it.
No they won’t. Wait, I’m sorry, let’s hear it. How do you think the weapons are going to be delivered if Israel is declared completely ineligible under the Leahy Law and FSA?
ROFL… show how you don’t know how congress works without saying you don’t know how congress works.
Even if Biden is able to halt it- which he isn’t…. When you succeed in getting Trump elected, he’s going to go HAM on Palestine. So tell us again how much you care to stop it again?
I’m sorry, but by what method exactly will Congress bypass the Leahy Law and FSA?
None of this schoolyard innuendo. Prove your knowledge.
You mean like when I asked you to provide a name of someone running that could win against Trump in November?
You forgot didn’t you?
You had no answer. I asked you several times. You refused to answer. Proving that no only do you not have anything better to say than “dOn’T vOtE fOr biDeN!” You have no clue what your end game is.
And in case you forgot- I said I had no intention to ever take a thing you say seriously. That means I’m not entertaining any of your questions where you refused to answer mine.
Love seeing both of you in the comment sections of these posts! Far left lunacy needs to be put in check.
I don’t understand your comment. Are you being sarcastic?
I am
I am lampooning a certain population on Lemmy who like to come up with an endless variety of specious reasons not to vote for Biden. Some of their reasons are pretty much exactly as I stated, and to me they are outweighed by “Trump wants to kill anyone who disobeys him, so we shouldn’t put him in charge of the military” among other issues, and so hence the lampooning.
Thanks for clarifying. I totally side with you :)
Yeah, it’s a perfectly fair question. Idk what the downvotes are about but be not afraid; they can’t hurt you.
I would have been astonished if he hadn’t. I figured he’s the typical old white Republican where the answer to every irritant is to kill it.
But boThSiDesSamE?
According to losing leftists at the polls
Is that Amy Winehouse?!
No, no, no.
Trumpets: as long as it’s the right people, we love it.
She sat in the same room and did nothing. Now enjoying playing the other side as a political commentator on CNN. Just sayin.
So what?
At this point, anyone who’s a Trump supporter secretly (or quite vocally) agrees with the policy of executions.
So stunning. I’ve clutched my pearls so hard they’ve… turned into better pearls? Wait that’s diamonds. Dammit.
They turned into diamonds!
“Stunning”? As in “actually surprising anyone”? Well, I am not the least surprised.
