Vance’s children identify as loveseats since they are only half-sofa.
I feel kind of bad for his wife, but she did clerk for Brett Kavanaugh and John Robert’s, and was a lawyer arguing on behalf of big corporations, so…I don’t feel that bad.
Most of that stuff doesn’t bother me. I don’t think most legal clerks have the luxury of choosing only judges who they’re philosophically aligned with to work for. And everyone, even big companies, deserve legal council. But she married a shit bag, and she’s endorsed his views, so I don’t feel badly for her.
Exactly. She also married him. She doesn’t get a pass.
Also she married him and has endorsed him. I feel bad for the kids.
Well yeah. His kids aren’t pretending they’re black so…
This just in, Jamaican people aren’t black.
More at 11.
Look who’s racist and ignorant now. It’s a nationality, not a race. Her dad is white n Indian of Jamaican citizenship
Race isn’t real dipshit.
Jesus fuck the absolute mental gymnastics of the Indian being black but race ain’t real even though they can tell by DNA what race your corpse were
When pressed, he added: “Look, all [Trump] said is that Kamala Harris is a chameleon.”
“She is everything to everybody, and she pretends to be somebody different depending on which audience she is in front of. I think it’s totally reasonable for the president to call that out, and that’s all he did,”Oh! I get it! The racists who make everything about race don’t like it when the races try to celebrate their race.
I shudder to think how Vance is gonna handle the first time his kids get mixed-race comments. You think he’ll tell them they gotta choose to be Indian or white, but they can’t be both? Ooooh! Bonus points if he fumbles his words and starts trying to backpedal when he says something about “Indians and Americans,” and then has to explain why Columbus was actually an amazing genius and not a failure in every sense of the word.
You think he’ll give them the choice to be Indian? He’ll tell them that they’re white if he likes them.
I actually know a South African (with a white wife) who had that same discussion with his kids. He told them something along this line:
If you marry a white girl, people will see you as white. If you marry a black girl, people will see you as black.
This guy was unfortunately a die-hard Republican.
I wonder if seeing him abase himself and his family for a chance at power was what he was chosen for.
Vance was gay, and then he wasn’t
“I’ll never forget the time I convinced myself that I was gay. I was eight or nine, maybe younger, and I stumbled upon a broadcast by some fire-and-brimstone preacher. The man spoke about the evils of homosexuals, how they had infiltrated our society, and how they were all destined for hell absent some serious repenting. At the time, the only thing I knew about gay men was that they preferred men to women. This described me perfectly: I disliked girls, and my best friend in the world was my buddy Bill. Oh no, I’m going to hell.”
When he brought up the issue with his grandmother — known to Vance as “Mamaw” — she replied bluntly: “Don’t be a fucking idiot, how would you know that you’re gay?”
When Vance explained his reasoning, she laughed.
“JD, do you want to suck dicks?” she said, according to the book.
The young Vance, apparently “flabbergasted,” said: “Of course not!”
“Then you’re not gay. And even if you did want to suck dicks, that would be okay,” she replied. “God would still love you.”
It’s said every time, but this implies that Mr Jorkin Dapeanus wanted to eat pussy as a child.
It is not said every time, and I did not want to think about this. Stop it!
Isn’t this a Macklemore song?
I don’t get why it isn’t plastered everywhere that JD Vance thinks being gay is a choice.
I’m working on it
So, Vance:
- Has biracial kids
- Honestly believed he was gay at one point
- Experiments sexually [with couches]
Any chance the man is actually a double agent? Any chance he represents some sort of new trends in the Republican world? Or is he in it for the grift?
At least Mawmaw gets points for not skipping the “God would still love you” part of Christianity, unlike most Republicans.
Shame he still turned out weird
Maybe its because couches don‘t have dicks to suck.
I can’t tell whether this is true or false.
Conversations that definitely happened…
Having met southern grandmas, it strikes me as very plausible that it did.
Can confirm. Had weird southern grandma.
As a half asian/white person, white people call me asian (mostly slurs), and asian people call me a mistake.
I’m sorry. That’s terrible and really shitty.
The man has a price and everyone can see what it is.
father of biracial kids
Putting that in the headline is teetering close to using their race as a cudgel. Not a fan.
It’s pointing out how much of a hypocrite he is.
Honestly it makes it feel like that’s the most relevant part of the matter and I don’t care for that. It’s wrong because it’s wrong, not because he’s being a hypocrite. That’s secondary and propping up his kids as if that’s what makes it wrong doesn’t seem like the best approach to me.
So never call these assholes out is what you’re saying.
I’m not sure where you got that from but don’t let that stop you from going after me. Let it out
You’re defending him by telling everyone not to point out how he’s a hypocrite. That’s where I got it from.
Please read the other conversations I’ve had with far more reasonable people capable of engaging in nuance.
Your problem is the headline. And you’ve now tried arguing against it many many times. You’ve even said multiple times that “I don’t know why”.
That’s ridiculous. If you’re that shallow I could care less about what you’ve said with other people while you, let my my notes here… ah yes. While you’ve criticized just the headline and nothing from the article, which I’m 100% sure you haven’t even bothered to read.
It kind of is the most relevant part of pointing how and why he’s a hypocrite.
So is the problem that he’s being racist defending another racist for racist remarks or that he’s a hypocrite? Because one is definitely worse to me than the other.
It’s both, in combination. He’s being racist, and he has kids with an Indian woman. Leaving out that part would be a glaring omission to the story.
It’s very much like the stories of the Republicans who want to make abortion illegal, which is bad enough, but it’s monumentally worse when it turns out they’ve had or paid for abortions.
Once again, one is definitely worse than the other. The headline makes it sound like this hinges on his having biracial kids. That’s not the right message
I think you’re the only one taking it as “hinging on.” Most people are taking it as “Person is against X but also chose X” (where X itself is a bad thing). Headline makes it clear he’s both a racist and a hypocrite. Both are important to know.
Yeah I think it’s because it kinda implies he doesn’t see his kids as being welcome to both of their ethnic heritages. And from what I’ve heard from half white friends it’s an awkward thing they often experience. Like I had a friend growing up who everyone was willing to acknowledge that he’s Filipino, but nobody was willing to acknowledge that he was equally hillbilly.
#1, it’s the The Daily Beast. This is their thing, to do articles with splashy headlines like this. #2, I don’t have a problem at all pointing out the unending hypocrisy.
Exactly. I would have assumed JD Vance had a totally white family and was just a garden variety racist. But now I’ve learned he’s a racist and a hypocrite
You must’ve missed the other day when it was revealed white supremacists were attacking his wife for not being white and he gave the most pathetic defense I’ve ever seen. Right up there with Ted Cruz allowing Trump to slander his wife
I understand what they are doing here pointing out the hypocrisy and all of that, but I don’t know. Something about the title just doesn’t sit right with me. As I said in another comment I just can’t quite articulate it. I’m hoping somebody can come along and put it better than I can.
Again, I think you’re expecting too much from The Daily Beast. This is the type of article they write to get clicks. This article isn’t from the New York Times or the Washington Post, but an internet site that specializes in splashy headlines and blunt articles.
It’s like you’re criticizing a donkey for being a donkey. “I just can’t put my finger on why, but I don’t like that donkey.” Maybe stay away from the donkey farm then.
It popped up in my feed, I didn’t seek out the daily beast. What does it say about a community that posts it if it has low standards, according to you?
I didn’t say they had low standards, I said they have splashy headlines and blunt articles. In my experience their articles are factual, they just don’t beat around the bush, or sugar coat it, or whataboutulism it like the more traditional mainstream media. They’re blunt about it, that’s their identity to get clicks. My suggestion was for you not to read articles from The Daily Beast if you don’t like their style. Or if you do read them, don’t criticize. Criticizing their style is nonsensical, like criticizing a donkey for being a donkey. That donkey may not… how did you put it, sit right with you… but that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with the donkey.
WTF? Trump brought up the whole thing, and now it’s on the table.
You sound perilously close to the folks who claim that any mention of race is racist.
Not a good look.
Hardly. Race is totally relevant to the discussion, I’d never advocate for color blind approaches or other brands of 90’s nonsense.
I I get where you were coming from, and I wish I could put my finger on it but I can’t. Just something about the title doesn’t sit right with me. I understand y’all are all going to continue to downvote and berate me for this because the dog pile has already started, but that’s just how I feel here.
Fuck Vance, fuck Trump, they’re both bigots and I can’t wait to see them crash and burn. My comment history is unambiguous on this matter.
I didn’t down vote you.
At this point, we all need to set aside whatever minor quibbles we have and focus on the next couple of months.
The election is the only thing that matters.
It wouldn’t drive traffic as much, but I’d definitely be in favor of the title just saying he endorses Trump’s statements, and then ending the article with the punchline. In bold, of course. To highlight the hypocrite and asshole he is.
Actually, maybe not a hypocrite, since the few things I’ve seen in how he treats his wife he may just be an asshole, even to them. But I don’t have the evidence for that. The treatment, I mean…he’s definitely an asshole.
Yeah there’s something about it being in the title in particular, like it matters because he has biracial kids or as if that plays a factor into why it’s wrong.
It’s like a headline that says “man diddles little boys”. It’s the act of messing with kids that’s gross, not that it’s worse because it was boys. Or if a teacher drops the n bomb in a class and someone saying “it’s worse because there were black kids in the class”. No, that’s not worse, it’s not less bad in any way.
But the headline I think is showing the hyprocacy and that’s important too.
Yeah that’s a good example. I totally get why people are upset with my first comment but I hope by now they can see the nuance a bit.
Ha. Good fucking luck with that. I got here about a year ago and you could expect that people would listen and engage but over the last few months, it’s gotten like reddit was a few years ago. Once the dog pile starts, it just goes.
Meh it is what it is
What, are they half white and half sectional or something?
I think the proper term for the offspring of a man and couch is “loveseat”.
You think he’s ashamed of the fact that his kids are bi-sectional?
his kids are half Indian half weird
Half Lovesac, so sactional
he’ll probably leave their mother for his side L
Love that all these alpha males have no balls whatsoever
I can’t believe the Cheeto found someone even more of a cuck than pence … it’s unbelievable
I feel bad for his kids to have such messed up parents.
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