• Bruhh@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Goddamn it would be so fucking easy to scam maga shitheads if I didn’t have morals

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      10 months ago

      Hell, I think my biggest problem is I can’t think of anything dumb enough before they’ve already got it

      I used to think I was a pessimist. But now after multiple “There’s no way people are that dumb” and being wrong I must be an absolute optimist.

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      10 months ago

      Right? I’d just sell them N-Word Passes and claim “Naw bro, Trump signed them and everything, these are real.”

  • EndOfLine@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    “… guys like me who have been debanked,” Donald Trump Jr. said

    I had to look up “debanked”. Admitting to it has to be the financial equivalent of telling people you are a registered sex offender.

    • Wrench@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      What he means is he’s trying to funnel his wealth into assets that aren’t regulated and may be difficult to seize.

      You know, to hide his money from the victims that he owes hundreds of millions to for his criminal behavior.

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      10 months ago

      No no no, he didn’t say “debanked” he said “Deutsch Banked.” As in, “I’m such a liability that the only financial institution that will work with me is shady Russian money laundering Deutsch Bank.”

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    10 months ago

    There’s likely some outright criminals who can’t easily send their dirty traceable money into politics directly to buy favors. Seems to me that this helps “solve” that.

    I, personally, imagine high odds of a combination of:

    • overt intentional crime happening in un-subtle ways
    • disallusioned operational staff with no real reason for loyalty
    • failure to stop at various “don’t do this or we will get caught” lines

    If I were any kind of federal investigator, I would look into this with great interest.

  • Ultraviolet@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    “For too long, the average American has been squeezed by the big banks and financial elites,” Trump wrote. “It’s time we take a stand — together.”

    Do people actually believe for a fraction of a second that Donald Trump of all people is on the side of the average American? And that the way to “take a stand” is with a crypto pump and dump scheme?

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    10 months ago

    Now they’re defiant? I thought the whole thing was that they were the silent majority or some bullshit.

    I knew serial conman Trump couldn’t resist getting involved in crypto which is one of the biggest cons of all time.

    • IcePee@lemmy.beru.co
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      10 months ago

      I would say the fiat money system is the biggest con, at least by volume. What with all the quantitative easing and fractional reserve banking.

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          I think I didn’t make myself clear. When I said “by volume” I meant was the amount of value the different systems hold and the amount of if not outright fraud, negative aspects of the systems. The fiat money systems’ money supply has a fundamental weakness, it can be created out of thin air so is constantly loosing value. Think of all the investment vehicles or other assets that tie themselves to this loosing value asset. Trillions in USD. And what’s it all backed by? Ultimately guns. Well most crypto currency is backed by maths and no matter how many guns you point at it, you cannot make 2+2= anything other than 4.

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            10 months ago

            Well most crypto currency is backed by maths and no matter how many guns you point at it, you cannot make 2+2= anything other than 4.

            Sure, you can make one type of coin or other rare or rate limited or whatever, but you can also just make up a different shit coin and give yourself a metric shit ton of that new coin, and then eventually try to move to either a more stable coin or back into fiat once you’ve gotten enough suckers holding the bag to exit.

            That makes crypto ultimately not based on maths at all, but based on hype, stupidity, and scams alone.

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              The main difference between these “shit coins” and fiat is once the shit coin scammers eventually pull the rug, they cannot just print more of that coin. Fiat scammers can just print more of that currency.

              But in both situations one does need to look at the economics of the coins, and the priors of the people in control.

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                10 months ago

                “Once they’ve completed the scam they have to move onto other scams.”

                Are you even thinking at all when constructing these arguments?

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                  What I am trying to get through to you is, just like how the LIBOR scandal doesn’t implicate fiat, scammy crypto projects doesn’t implicate crypto. My criticism of fiat is it’s fundamental systemic weaknesses. It seems your criticism of crypto is it’s used by scammers. A criticism that, incidentally can also be levied at fiat.

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      10 months ago

      Right?! The perfect con for people who’ve been living under a rock for the last 3 years!

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    10 months ago

    I can’t wait to see the level of grifts that will come when they really start to get desperate.

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      Not sure it can be called grift if he’s literally saying they will be funding him.

      There’s no deceit involved in this case.

      I mean, there’s no deceit involved in modern UI\UX in social platforms either, but the paradigms are taken from gambling machines.

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        10 months ago

        With Trump the grift is usually that they people who buy in think they are funding his campagn whereas he uses much of the money is used for other stuff like his personal lawsuits for business fraud and the like.