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vegeta@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 10 months ago

Trump re-charged in special counsel election case due to Supreme Court immunity ruling

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Trump re-charged in special counsel election case due to Supreme Court immunity ruling

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vegeta@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 10 months ago
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Donald Trump is still charged with four counts related to his alleged efforts to illegally overturn his loss to President Joe Biden in the 2020 election.
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    10 months ago

    How the turntables.

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    Riker should be along here momentarily to play a sour note

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      10 months ago

    • Nougat@fedia.io
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      10 months ago

      @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world - it is your time.

      • Zerlyna@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Odd. What’s taking so long.

        • RunningInRVA@lemmy.world
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          He seems to have laid off for a while. His own subtle Riker trombone meme to the people that want it.

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    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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      I see we are still downvoting a bot meant to combat media bias. I will never understand that.

      • Kalysta@lemm.ee
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        Someone programmed that bot, and has their own biases.

        Plus it’s annoying.

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          No, the bot is simply querying a website/api that has a transparent process for how they determine the things they do. I’ve seen links posted to back that up several times, but those who hate the bot never seem to care about the links. If you want to look into MBFC’s process, it should be easy to google.

          I don’t see what’s annoying about it, but can’t you just block or mute that bot if it annoys you so much?

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    But Smith’s case was put on hold for months while Trump’s lawyers litigated their argument that he was immune from the charges because he was president at the time the alleged acts took place.

    The Supreme Court took up the dispute. In a July 1 ruling vehemently opposed by its three liberal justices, the court held that former presidents enjoy “absolute immunity” from criminal prosecution for certain executive conduct and “presumptive immunity” for all other official acts.

    I still can’t get over the Supreme Court declaring that the U.S. effectively has a king.

    • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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      Biden should really be taking advantage of that ruling and doing whatever the fuck he wants

    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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      We should see if the Ukrainians have a spare handful of those new cruise missile drones available to visit the residences of the Tribunal of Six.

      For real though, if those fucksticks actually try to ignore electoral results and hand the election to Trump, I genuinely do not see the situation getting resolved without a very significant level of political violence - perhaps even ultimately devolving into open civil war. Seriously, look at what Ken Paxton is doing in Texas only days ago. That is some authoritarian police state shit.

      • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemmy.zip
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        All rights are won through violence.

        • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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          Except for the many times they weren’t

          • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemmy.zip
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            name one.

            • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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              Easy. Women got the right to vote in America from non violent protests.

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                However violence was inacted against them. They won those rights as a reaction to the brutilization they suffered in their fight.

                https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/11/10/night-of-terror-the-suffragists-who-were-beaten-and-tortured-for-seeking-the-vote/

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                  So the argument is that violence is good… because the bad guys once used it and lost because they did… ? wtffff

              • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemmy.zip
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                So you’re saying america wasnt founded on violence?

                BTW, you’re also wrong – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_bombing_and_arson_campaign

                https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/radical-protests-propelled-suffrage-movement-heres-how-new-museum-captures-history-180976114/

                https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20240307-in-history-suffragettes-speak-about-direct-action-and-their-brutal-treatment

                https://www.history.com/news/night-terror-brutality-suffragists-19th-amendment

                ALL RIGHTS ARE WON THROUGH VIOLENCE

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                  This makes you sound bloodthirsty. Good luck with that.

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                  So you’re saying america wasnt founded on violence?

                  Uh no and you know I said nothing like that and it has nothing to do with my point in the slightest.

                  Also your links do not prove that the violence was necessary. It was not.

                  Every horrible violent piece of human filth has believed what you’re selling here. I find it horribly disgusting how many people think that violence is an answer. Keep your sewer thoughts to yourself.

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      While simultaneously defining themselves as the arbiters of that kingship, no less.

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        Shocked that there isn’t a smoking crater where each of their houses used to be.

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          Imagine if the US was the only country with a constitution with a clause specifically for this kind of situation

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    No real changes here, next date to watch is Friday, 8/30:

    If you’re trying to keep track of where we’re at in the Trump prosecutions:

    Updated 08/27/2024

    Washington, D.C.
    4 federal felonies
    January 6th Election Interference
    Investigation
    Indictment
    Arrest  <- You Are Here
    Trial - The trial, originally scheduled for March 4th, had been placed on hold pending the Supreme Court ruling on Presidential Immunity.

    The Supreme Court ruled that the President does enjoy limited immunity for “official acts”, it now returns to lower court to determine what, if any, of his acts leading up to 1/6 were “official”.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/supreme-court-donald-trump-immunity/index.html

    On 8/27, a new federal grand jury re-indicted Trump on all four counts in a hearing this time excluding evidence barred by the Supreme Court.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-indicted-federal-election-interference-case-supreme-court-immuni-rcna168503

    Previously, Jack Smith had asked for a delay until 8/30 to determine a path forward, it would seem this new indictment is the path.
    Conviction
    Sentencing

    New York
    34 state felonies
    Stormy Daniels Payoff
    Investigation
    Indictment
    Arrest
    Trial
    Conviction <- You Are Here Guilty, all 34 counts.
    Sentencing - Originally scheduled for July 11, 2024, now delayed until September 18th following the Supreme Court’s ruling on Presidential immunity.
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/trump-sentencing-date-delay-proposal/index.html

    Georgia
    10 state felonies
    Election Interference
    As of 3/13/24 - Judge McAfee cleared 6 charges, 3 against Trump, saying they were too generic to be enforced.
    As of 3/15/24 - The case may proceed, but either Fulton County DA, Fani Willis and her office or Special Prosecutor Nathan Wade must remove themselves due to the appearance of impropriety.
    Investigation
    Indictment
    Arrest <- You Are Here
    All 19 defendants have surrendered. n Trial - October 4th, 2024 hearing has been set to determine if Fani Willis can remain on the case.
    Three defendants, Kenneth Chesebro, Sidney Powell, and bail bondsman Scott Hall, have all pled guilty and have agreed to testify in other cases.
    Conviction
    Sentencing

    Florida
    40 federal felonies
    Top Secret Documents charges
    Investigation
    Indictment
    Original indictment was for 37 felonies.   3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
    Arrest <- You Are Here
    Trial - The trial had been set to begin May 20, 2024, but was subsequently delayed indefinitely by the judge, and has now been dismissed outright under the claims that the prosecutor was not Constitutionally appointed.
    https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-tosses-trump-documents-case-ruling-prosecutor-unlawfully-appointed-2024-07-15/

    Jack Smith appealed Judge Cannon’s ruling on Monday, 8/26 to the 11th circuit.

    https://www.npr.org/2024/08/26/g-s1-19642/special-counsel-jack-smith-judge-cannon-appeal-trump-classified-documents
    Conviction
    Sentencing

    Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, or the Arizona fake electors, have not been announced.

    The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it’s a civil case and not a crimimal one. He was found liable in that case for $83.3 million.

    There had been multiple cases in multiple states to remove Trump from the ballot, citing ineligibility under the 14th amendment.

    The Supreme Court ruled on March 4th that states do not have the ability to determine eligibility in Federal elections.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/video/united-states-supreme-court-overturns-colorado-supreme-court-donald-trump-ballot-ruling/

    • rhadamanth_nemes@lemmy.world
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      Thank you!

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      M V fucking P

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      What is scheduled to happen on 8/30?

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        Jack Smith asked to have until 8/30 to decide next steps. I think the re-indictment today was that next step, but it’s not clear if more is coming before then.

        This may be it, followed by a new trial date.

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      Most if the acts were part of his campaign. And from what I understand you can’t campaign as an official act.

      Also he has nothing to do with certifying an election. That’s the VPs job.

      Also. Thank you for this amazing breakdown.

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        Right, but the bullshit SCOTUS decision means that anything that might be part of an official act (such as communicating with the VP) is at least presumptively immune and can’t be used as evidence until after you can prove it should not be immune.

        This of course opens the door for Biden to simply order the military to kill Trump, then pardon whoever actually followed that illegal order. Since commanding the military and writing pardons are core constitutionally prescribed duties of the presidency they are absolutely immune and also cannot be used as evidence of any crime.

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          If Biden had balls this might make him the most popular president in history right now.

          But he won’t do that because democrats realize how fucking stupid that decision is. And if prosecutors are smart - like the one that just refiled the federal charges - they’ll argue that a jury found that these were not official acts and we’ll get to watch scotus try to argue that you can’t use juries to decide facts anymore.

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      I am so appreciative when you post these updates! Thank you!

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    Of course, because nothing has changed. He was doing these crimes before becoming president

    It wouldn’t surprise me that if it is why he gets people to call him president Trump still. Because it makes it seem he’s still doing official duties.

    He should consider himself lucky that he’s not going to jail for rape too

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      All presidents are referred to as presidents after the fact. Sometimes they specify former or current but it’s not necessary. Although, THE president is usually referring to the current guy.

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    Good. Eff that guy, and especially eff Cannon and so-called Supreme Court.

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    This is why you don’t weasel out of jury duty. God bless everyone that helped reindict this shit bag.

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