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db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 8 months ago

China hacked Verizon, AT&T and Lumen using the FBI’s backdoor

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China hacked Verizon, AT&T and Lumen using the FBI’s backdoor

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Pluralistic: China hacked Verizon, AT&T and Lumen using the FBI’s backdoor (07 Oct 2024) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
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  • LunchMoneyThief@links.hackliberty.org
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    Article author struggles with clean links

    https://www.wsj.com/tech/cybersecurity/u-s-wiretap-systems-targeted-in-china-linked-hack btw

    The pioneers of this dirty business were overwhelmingly founded by ex-Israeli signals intelligence personnel,

    That’s interesting. Must be a coincidence.

    and related Clinton-era initiatives, like the failed Clipper Chip program, which would have put a spy chip in every computer, and, eventually, every phone and gadget:

    “Don’t worry, guys we tried to backdoor all devices but failed, see?”

    Meanwhile, Intel ME, AMD “Secure Processor”, and ARM “TrustZone”:

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      That’s interesting. Must be a coincidence.

      Kinda coincides in time with Israel becoming less of a normal West-aligned state and more of a spoiled child whom everyone pats, not very well-behaving at that.

      Though TBH this was the case under Reagan too. It’s just that there’s difference between support for Israel and Israel’s penetration back.

    • dan@upvote.au
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      That link is a 404 for me.

      • betabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Same. The OP article is interesting, but was hoping for more than a few wiki links of past instances. Is there more verifiable evidence for this instance? Don’t doubt the claim, just curious.

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        Dawg

  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    China USA hacked Verizon, AT&T and Lumen then left the door open for anybody else

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      US did not need to hack, they just said they need the key… How did china get these keys?

      Are our glowies selling state secrets now?

      • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Oh hey, I found a random 8 year old video.

        Random…

        https://youtu.be/VPBH1eW28mo

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      And this is why the NSA is supposed to close exploits rather than harvest them for surveillance.

      This is why surveillance backdoors are always bad, and you can’t math around that.

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        Can’t weasel around math you mean? They don’t think they can, it’s collateral damage.

    • almost1337@lemm.ee
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      If the door exists, then it can be opened

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    Can’t buy Huawei Networking gear, if we get hacked it has the be through our own backdoor.

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    This article is getting saved, for the next time some idiot proposes ‘lawful backdoors’, which will inevitably happen.

    • Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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      Nervously glances at TPM and TSA approved locks.

      • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I still love the fact that those TSA keys are all available online as 3D files and likely as metal as well

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          Those locks are kinda optional. And luggage is way less important than all of one’s communication ; imho.

          • Draconic NEO@lemmy.world
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            The bad part is when people take a luggage lock and use it for their Gym locker, or the locker at the pool. Somewhere that really REALLY shouldn’t be using a weak lock with a readily available master key.

          • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            Oh absolutely, but it does do something that I’m not sure people realize: it normalizes the idea of a government agent holding the keys to all of your stuff.

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          So, let’s talk about common keys.

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          I know for a fact you can get a metal set for a few dollars plus shipping.

        • Draconic NEO@lemmy.world
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          I just went and looked, set of multiple TSA master keys for sale online, numbered with which ones they are the master keys for.

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    @db0 works as intended

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    Wow. It’s almost like we’ve been warning for years that putting backdoors into software, systems, and encryption would allow nefarious parties to exploit them.

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      Think about the children <clutches pearls>. It will make it easier for police to access instead of <checks notes> doing actual police work and getting a warrant.

      • desktop_user [they/them] @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        you don’t want police to think about children, or atleast I don’t.

      • anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Well yeah but then they’d have to expand the hiring pool beyond the dumbest jock you knew in high school and those people tend to balk at doing fascism so…

        • DominusOfMegadeus@sh.itjust.works
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          Hey, be fair! They also hire the three bullies who hung out by the bleachers smoking cigarettes.

      • Lennny@lemmy.world
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        Sorry, I only think of children during school shootings, it’s easier that way.

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      The FBI is the nefarious party lol

      • DogWater@lemmy.world
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        Waco intensifies

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    Omg the back doors work for anyone who can gain access to them??? Shocked-pikachu.jpg

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    I remember them trying to get Apple to put in a back door as well

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      That was a psyop my man

      Got normies super comfortable ;)

    • horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world
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      Only Apple can use that data for profit! Now the Alphabet agencies just buy that data from brokers… I just realized how funny the parent company to Google name change is.

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        I just realized how funny the parent company to Google name change is.

        Thank you for this sentence, I thought you were talking about Google, YouTube, etc at first

      • the post of tom joad@sh.itjust.works
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        Dang, you’re right! It’s like noticing the arrow in fedex

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    What?? But the FBI called dibs on that backdoor! /s

    It’s almost like putting backdoors into software as a whole is a bad idea cause anyone who knows of it can use it, not just “tHe GoOd GuYs”

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      cause anyone who knows of it can use it

      …and the ones who don’t know of it will one day become the ones who know

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    nice, that’ll tech them.

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