I don’t dispute imaginary statistics, there’s no point.
And if that were true, it makes no difference. Nintendo meticulously goes after fan projects and emulators that are completely legal. If they want to go after sites distributing ROMs - totally fair.
Saying Nintendo is only anti-consumer to pirates is a bootlicker take.
Nintendo went against one emulator that was legal, Ryujinx, and I support critiquing Nintendo for this. In other instances they were going after pirates and people infringing on their currently used trademarks and copyrights.
The Yuzu team was profiting from game leaks and piracy, and that’s illegal. Their software was not illegal. Nintendo’s lawsuit was riddled with bullshit claims about circumventing encryption and other made-up offenses, and resulted in the 100% legal development of both Yuzu and Citra being forcefully terminated. The actually just solution would have been to forbid them from monetizing their projects by promising fixes for unreleased software.
Here’s a simple analogy: if you own a 3D printer and sell objects made with that printer, some of which are illegal for whatever reason (e.g. parts for making untraceable firearms), should a court forbid you from ever using a 3D printer ever again, even if it’s to make a kickstand for your tablet, or should it forbid you from making illegal parts only?
Yuzu devs are gone from the scene but the source code is out there. Turns out developing an emulator requires a team of full time employees that you need to fund through Patreon and that’s kinda far beyond a hobby project, no? You’re so anti Nintendo that you started cheering for another company that was outright infringing on their IP by using Nintendo trademarks in their own marketing materials.
Snes9x, no$gba, Higan and literally dozens if not hundreds of other emulators were developed as hobby projects, many of them by a single person in their spare time, so you, sir or madam, are completely full of it. Go fanboy somewhere else and let the grown-ups talk.
Development of a cutting edge emulator takes effort because you can’t brute force your way. It has to be efficient and also incredibly complex (all modern emulators are HAL or API reimplementations by necessity). Those emulators you reference didn’t require commercial amount of funding because they were created by the time emulated hardware was obsolete. It was a nice balance where Nintendo didn’t sue anyone. That is until Yuzu/Citra folks decided to enrich themselves in the process, bring Sauron Nintendo gaze and ruin things for everyone.
I meant that in legal sense they pirate stuff. Copyright laws being goofy is another thing entirely but Nintendo works in a legal framework where not defending your trademarks means you can lose them.
Nintendo couldn’t pirate their own stuff because they own it. They downloaded ROMs because they can’t be arsed to dump them themselves, similar to 99% of population. Kind of hypocritical with all the DRM related laws that they support but at least they recognise they’re unenforceable.
Ok, then Nintendo benefitted financially from piracy and made no efforts to hide the fact that they obtained games through the exact same methods that pirates use.
Emulation is not piracy. Don’t drink the Nintendo kool-aid.
100% agree. Also 99% emulator users pirate games or do you dispute this part too?
I don’t dispute imaginary statistics, there’s no point.
And if that were true, it makes no difference. Nintendo meticulously goes after fan projects and emulators that are completely legal. If they want to go after sites distributing ROMs - totally fair.
Saying Nintendo is only anti-consumer to pirates is a bootlicker take.
Nintendo went against one emulator that was legal, Ryujinx, and I support critiquing Nintendo for this. In other instances they were going after pirates and people infringing on their currently used trademarks and copyrights.
You are completely wrong.
The Yuzu team was profiting from game leaks and piracy, and that’s illegal. Their software was not illegal. Nintendo’s lawsuit was riddled with bullshit claims about circumventing encryption and other made-up offenses, and resulted in the 100% legal development of both Yuzu and Citra being forcefully terminated. The actually just solution would have been to forbid them from monetizing their projects by promising fixes for unreleased software.
Here’s a simple analogy: if you own a 3D printer and sell objects made with that printer, some of which are illegal for whatever reason (e.g. parts for making untraceable firearms), should a court forbid you from ever using a 3D printer ever again, even if it’s to make a kickstand for your tablet, or should it forbid you from making illegal parts only?
Yuzu devs are gone from the scene but the source code is out there. Turns out developing an emulator requires a team of full time employees that you need to fund through Patreon and that’s kinda far beyond a hobby project, no? You’re so anti Nintendo that you started cheering for another company that was outright infringing on their IP by using Nintendo trademarks in their own marketing materials.
Snes9x, no$gba, Higan and literally dozens if not hundreds of other emulators were developed as hobby projects, many of them by a single person in their spare time, so you, sir or madam, are completely full of it. Go fanboy somewhere else and let the grown-ups talk.
I’m fairly certain you missed the point.
Development of a cutting edge emulator takes effort because you can’t brute force your way. It has to be efficient and also incredibly complex (all modern emulators are HAL or API reimplementations by necessity). Those emulators you reference didn’t require commercial amount of funding because they were created by the time emulated hardware was obsolete. It was a nice balance where Nintendo didn’t sue anyone. That is until Yuzu/Citra folks decided to enrich themselves in the process, bring
SauronNintendo gaze and ruin things for everyone.Do you mean pirating games that are still for sale? Because plenty of emulator users only pirate old stuff that isn’t currently for sale.
I meant that in legal sense they pirate stuff. Copyright laws being goofy is another thing entirely but Nintendo works in a legal framework where not defending your trademarks means you can lose them.
It’s probably almost nearly 100% of emulator users who pirate games.
Even Nintendo pirated their own games before releasing them on the Wii’s Virtual Console.
Nintendo couldn’t pirate their own stuff because they own it. They downloaded ROMs because they can’t be arsed to dump them themselves, similar to 99% of population. Kind of hypocritical with all the DRM related laws that they support but at least they recognise they’re unenforceable.
Ok, then Nintendo benefitted financially from piracy and made no efforts to hide the fact that they obtained games through the exact same methods that pirates use.
Piracy of what?
Booty and gold, of course