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    I understand where people are coming from when they say “identity politics” are politics getting in the way of class struggle. I vehemently disagree with it, these are also important issues we need to stand up for even when they are sometimes unpopular, but I understand where it comes from.

    But if she also thinks we shouldn’t be talking about class either, what the fuck does she want to do?

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      I understand where people are coming from when they say “identity politics” are politics getting in the way of class struggle. I vehemently disagree with it, these are also important issues we need to stand up for even when they are sometimes unpopular

      The thing is, the things that help everyone helps everyone…

      The people suffering from identity politics politicizing their existence as well

      But when shit sucks, people lash out. If we were taking care of everyone, they wouldn’t need a Boogeyman to blame to distract them from the real problem.

      Fixing the class issue makes it easier to fix societal issues.

      You’re literally arguing to put the cart before the horse, to do things in the least effective manner to achieve all goals.

      That’s why the wealthy use it to distract people, even though you think you understand it. You’re still missing the point and falling for it. It’s an effective strategy and loads of people keep falling for it. It exploits natural logic, because it should be easier to handle “identity politics” because it’s way less people.

      Humans aren’t wired to think of more than like 220 people, and that fact is exploited by the wealthy constantly

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        If we want to take care of everyone, then we need to be sure that we actually are taking care of everyone. We have to stand up against persecution and injustice. We have to proactively offer a hand up to those who need it most right now. When people are being oppressed, silence is complicity.

        If you want to sweep issues under the rug when they feel politically inconvenient, then you can’t also say you’re taking care of everyone.

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          then we need to be sure that we actually are taking care of everyone.

          Literally what I’m saying…

          We’re not, we should be, and that should be priority 1 because everything else is easy.

          You’re so close to understanding this.

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            1 month ago

            Does taking care of everyone mean saying “sorry you can’t get HRT, it just doesn’t poll well enough”?

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              1 month ago

              I take back what I said:

              You’re so close to understanding this.

              I’m sorry I can’t put this very simple topic in a way you can understand. Hopefully someone else has better luck