A fridge brand new in 1985 cost about 85 dollars a year in energy now a fridge costs about 45 a year. A YEAR. The savings is absolutely negligible.
And I understand that over a large population that small amount of savings is quite large. The thing is the standards for these types of ratings is… Questionable at best.
For example on a washing machine they conserve water by filling the tub with less water several times which in turn works out to be more water over time instead of just one fill.
The energy star rating sticker is there for marketing and nothing else. It helps sell the appliance. Thats all.
If the energy star rating is not there, manufacturers have no incentive to try to qualify. Likely it is cheaper to cut corners that make appliances less efficient. So, they’ll do that and consumers won’t have a way to easily know that they did. We may see the 1985-tier fridge energy use again.
In the 1970s a residential clothing washer would run for about 40 minutes at the max setting pulling 120 volts and 5 amps. Albeit they used more water to clean the cloths faster.
A modern front load washer now runs for about 2 hours for a regular wash at the same 120 volts and 5 amps. Although we are saving water we recycle anyway…
85 dollars spread over the course of 365 days is .23 cents a day. 45 dollars spread over 365 days is .12 cents a day. Omg. A whole .11 cents of saving in energy costs. Whoopdy doo! But yes if you turn it into a percentage that number seems way way bigger! 50% savings! A whole 40 bucks a year!
It’s funny because energy costs is just one small aspect of refrigeration.
Did you know that fridges made in the 80s and 90s leaked far less freon than ones made in the last 10 years?
The environmental impact of modern refrigeration is staggering compared to that of about 40 years ago.
Ok. Let’s talk a out this for a moment.
A fridge brand new in 1985 cost about 85 dollars a year in energy now a fridge costs about 45 a year. A YEAR. The savings is absolutely negligible.
And I understand that over a large population that small amount of savings is quite large. The thing is the standards for these types of ratings is… Questionable at best.
For example on a washing machine they conserve water by filling the tub with less water several times which in turn works out to be more water over time instead of just one fill.
The energy star rating sticker is there for marketing and nothing else. It helps sell the appliance. Thats all.
If the energy star rating is not there, manufacturers have no incentive to try to qualify. Likely it is cheaper to cut corners that make appliances less efficient. So, they’ll do that and consumers won’t have a way to easily know that they did. We may see the 1985-tier fridge energy use again.
The energy star organization isn’t dictating how much energy manufactures have to make their appliances use federal mandate is.
The law is actually dictating how much energy they should be using and they get more and more stringent every year from Congress.
The energy star rating is nothing more than marketing. The same as the better Business bureau they serve no actual function.
Is that in 1985 dollars or inflation adjusted?
Got a source to back those claims up?
Are those dollar values normalized to the same year?
You going off data or just vibes, because the only thing here that feels questionable at best is your post.
20+ years in the appliance repair industry.
In the 1970s a residential clothing washer would run for about 40 minutes at the max setting pulling 120 volts and 5 amps. Albeit they used more water to clean the cloths faster.
A modern front load washer now runs for about 2 hours for a regular wash at the same 120 volts and 5 amps. Although we are saving water we recycle anyway…
TIL that a ~50% improvement in energy use is ‘absolutely negligible’.
I agree that the energy star system may be flawed but the premise of your comment is wild.
85 dollars spread over the course of 365 days is .23 cents a day. 45 dollars spread over 365 days is .12 cents a day. Omg. A whole .11 cents of saving in energy costs. Whoopdy doo! But yes if you turn it into a percentage that number seems way way bigger! 50% savings! A whole 40 bucks a year!
It’s funny because energy costs is just one small aspect of refrigeration.
Did you know that fridges made in the 80s and 90s leaked far less freon than ones made in the last 10 years?
The environmental impact of modern refrigeration is staggering compared to that of about 40 years ago.
He’s using Maga-nomics. Real numbers don’t mean anything
Have you heard of a little thing called the environment? Not everything is about money.