• vortic@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Of course they are! They’ve engineered their appliances to get the energy star label. If that label disappears they lose their investment because that label will no longer be there to quickly distinguish the efficient products.

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      Yup. Trump also removed the requirement limiting the amount of water a toilet can use to flush and no manufacturers cared. They already changed their designs and factories to produce efficient models. Why would they change it all just to make stuff that’s worse?

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      1 month ago

      Plus who knows what the requirements will be in four years, maybe energy star will be reinstated?

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        At this point, it’s probably wise not to count on the “in four years” idea that Trump will willingly step aside and allow someone else to be President. And even if we get lucky and he dies before that time, his successor is much younger and just as emboldened as Trump.

        To paraphrase the old saying, “Hide yo kids, hide yo couch!”

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          I’m still planning on leaving the country, but I think it’s okay to have some hope in the meantime

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            1 month ago

            I hope you’re worth something to another country because you can’t just go anywhere you want (unless you want to be an illegal immigrant)

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            What makes you think you’ll be able to leave?

            I hope you have dual citizenship because that’s pretty much your only path at this point.

            • Why is the response to someone voicing their desire to leave always the same pessimistic dead end response?

              I’ve read dozens if not hundreds of responses like yours. I’m leaving this week. Yes it’s hard but it’s not impossible.

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              Maybe a more realistic suggestion than my previous one would be to look for a job outside the US by an employer willing to sponsor a visa.

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                You’ll need some highly sought after skills that are hard to come by. They aren’t interested in taking anyone to fill any job. Then you’ll need to wade yourself through the long line of visa applicants.

                Best of luck!

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    They argued that ending Energy Star labeling would go against Trump’s stated goal of bringing down energy prices.

    Haven’t they learned anything? Just because Trump says he wants to do something does not mean he’ll do it. Most especially anything beneficial to anybody but him and his entourage of cock suckers.

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    The inefficient models will be unsellable outside of the US, and the efficient models from elsewhere will be unsellable in the US due to tariffs.

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    Ok. Let’s talk a out this for a moment.

    A fridge brand new in 1985 cost about 85 dollars a year in energy now a fridge costs about 45 a year. A YEAR. The savings is absolutely negligible.

    And I understand that over a large population that small amount of savings is quite large. The thing is the standards for these types of ratings is… Questionable at best.

    For example on a washing machine they conserve water by filling the tub with less water several times which in turn works out to be more water over time instead of just one fill.

    The energy star rating sticker is there for marketing and nothing else. It helps sell the appliance. Thats all.

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      If the energy star rating is not there, manufacturers have no incentive to try to qualify. Likely it is cheaper to cut corners that make appliances less efficient. So, they’ll do that and consumers won’t have a way to easily know that they did. We may see the 1985-tier fridge energy use again.

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        30 days ago

        The energy star organization isn’t dictating how much energy manufactures have to make their appliances use federal mandate is.

        The law is actually dictating how much energy they should be using and they get more and more stringent every year from Congress.

        The energy star rating is nothing more than marketing. The same as the better Business bureau they serve no actual function.

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      Got a source to back those claims up?

      Are those dollar values normalized to the same year?

      You going off data or just vibes, because the only thing here that feels questionable at best is your post.

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        20+ years in the appliance repair industry.

        In the 1970s a residential clothing washer would run for about 40 minutes at the max setting pulling 120 volts and 5 amps. Albeit they used more water to clean the cloths faster.

        A modern front load washer now runs for about 2 hours for a regular wash at the same 120 volts and 5 amps. Although we are saving water we recycle anyway…

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      TIL that a ~50% improvement in energy use is ‘absolutely negligible’.

      I agree that the energy star system may be flawed but the premise of your comment is wild.

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        30 days ago

        85 dollars spread over the course of 365 days is .23 cents a day. 45 dollars spread over 365 days is .12 cents a day. Omg. A whole .11 cents of saving in energy costs. Whoopdy doo! But yes if you turn it into a percentage that number seems way way bigger! 50% savings! A whole 40 bucks a year!

        It’s funny because energy costs is just one small aspect of refrigeration.

        Did you know that fridges made in the 80s and 90s leaked far less freon than ones made in the last 10 years?

        The environmental impact of modern refrigeration is staggering compared to that of about 40 years ago.