Vaguely gestures at everything.
You need me to pick just one?
yeah. 2025 is just not the best timing for that activity.
You could get put in jail for no reason and risk being sent to a concentration camp.
Being detained upon arrival and immediately being sent back (if you’re lucky) is just the start.
To not support USA financially
It’s risky if you’re any of the following:
- Black/brown, or from a non-white country
- Queer (ESPECIALLY if you’re trans/NB, I left because it got that bad)
- A woman
- Disabled
- Have made left-leaning posts on social media
Even if you’re none of those, there’s always the chance that your next trip to the mall or store will become the next major event in your life. There’s also the slim chance that you might get an all-expenses paid trip to El Salvador. Don’t do it, it’s not worth it.
Basically if you’re anyone except a white cishet man, then don’t go there. Even then, you probably don’t wanna go there.
It’s dangerous. People are a 35 times more likely to be killed by guns than my country.
What that data fails to properly explain is that outside of a few counties you are basically never going to see a gun homicide in the US. The city I live in has some of the highest gun crime in the country, but it is almost exclusively in a few small areas that tourists would never really go anywhere near.
Of our yearly gun homicides ~82% of it is African Americans killing other African Americans. Often in gang related disputes in very specific areas in a couple of states.
Depending on where someone is visiting they are likely much safer here than in many other countries on average.
Statistics are a wonderful thing, but it’s important to fully understand the data rather than just applying that average to the entire united states without any nuance.
Mississippi had a gun death rate of 29.6 per 100k in 2022.
Rhode Island had a a gun death rate of 3.1 per 100k in 2022.
Both those numbers include suicide by gun and suicide has outpaced homicide for at least the last 40 years.
Another thing to note is that the USA over all has lower gun homicide rates today than back in 1970s.
For comparison Jamaica had 44.7 gun death per 100k in 2022.
The Bahamas had 28.5 per 100k in 2022.
Plenty of people still feel comfortable traveling to those places year round.
The fact you had to name Jamaica and Bahamas, both incredibly poor developing nations as comparison to get remotely close to our gun violence is proof you should not come here.
…did you read my comment at all? I very clearly stated that those are popular tourist destinations that people are still visiting all year round. As in people don’t find THOSE places too dangerous to visit why should they worry about america?
Both of those places are significantly more dangerous than the overwhelming majority of America as I very clearly explained in the rest of my comment.
I don’t think you read my comment at all. If you did you certainly didn’t understand anything I said.
Try again.
If you don’t see the enormous double standard you applied in your last comment, then there’s nothing more for anyone to discuss here.
Enlighten me. What “enormous” double standard did I apply in my last comment?
I won’t deny the fact that gun violence happens here in the US, but statistics can be deceiving when you’re dealing with very small numbers. The article you linked gives a rate of 4.5 per 100,000 people in the US. That would put your country at around 0.13 per 100k.
Out of 100k, the difference between 4.5 and 0.13 is still exceptionally small. So small that your chances of being shot if you live here your entire life are negligible. If you visit for a week or two, your chances are statistically insignificant. If you look at homicides by any means, not just firearms, this becomes even closer.
So while what you say is accurate, you have to look at what it actually means. The United States is not “dangerous” by any stretch of the imagination. 35 multiplied by almost nothing is still almost nothing.
Says only nation where mass shootings occur daily.
You’re full of shit. Redefining “dangerous” doesn’t make things less dangerous. 35x as dangerous will always be 35x as dangerous. Drop your stupid, shitty numbers, reframe it as 1 in 1,000,000 vs. 1 in 22,000. That seem like enough of a difference? It should, if you’re sane. It won’t, if you’re a gun psychopath or just an argumentative asshole.
You’re using “the entire US”. Well, tourists don’t visit “the statistical entire US”. They go to cities, where the people and things are. If you’re too fucking stupid to understand there are places in the US that are DANGEROUS, that’s not my problem.
Please visit some of these dangerous places. Stay forever, I mean the odds are in your favor, right?
Bit of a shithole innit
ICE
And CBP. If you’re anything but a white male, they don’t like you.
It’s not /just/ about colour. Plenty of white people are being detained illegally. The only way to be certain not to be illegally detained in the US is not to visit the US. Sadly, not an option for many people who are already there.
Even if you’re a white male, it’s safer to be wealthy just in case.
Trump
Guns
Trump supporters with guns
Having insufficiently pale skin.
I guess if you look brownish, it can be a risky endeavour, depending on where you want to visit exactly. But what do I know, I’ve never been there
*Gestures broadly*
Everything happening right now.
gestures around broadly wellll
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Spending your vacation money in the US is sending some of that money to Donald Dump and friends.
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Seeing how tourists have actually been detained by ICE, it’s not even a hypothetical, I’d say the chances of it happening to you is at the very least nontrivial. Given the choice of countries for my vacation, I choose the one where the chances of that are, in fact, trivial.
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