Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don’t approve funding, there are dangers to the future of Social Security and Medicare.
Trump said at a press conference that when he asked Democrats for feedback on the funding bills, one said, “It means death.”
“There’s nothing about death,” Trump said. “Theirs is death because they’re going to lose Medicaid, they’re going to lose Social Security, they’re going to lose Medicare, all of those things are going to be gone because the whole country would be bankrupt, and you’re not going to have any kind of medical insurance.”
Warns? Must be a rally. If it were to his donors, it’d be “promises”.
It’s a warning in the same sense as someone warns that your building might burn down if you don’t pay protection money.
Most of his mind might be gone, but the extortion part is still operative.
Gone to funding ballrooms and Argentinian farms
Why can’t we have a no confidence vote and get rid of the party in charge?
Did they really not build a mechanism for us to collectively vote no confidence? I feel like they’re abusing every trick in the book and nobody can find a way to stop it
No problem. Just as soon as you pay me back those taxes I’ve been paying my entire working life. If you don’t, things become difficult. And by “things” heh heh let’s just say… your ability to breathe on your own.
Good! Without Social Security or Medicare we can afford TWO Golden Ballrooms!
-Republicans LITERALLY on Social Security and MEDICARE!
No he won’t. EVERY Republican knows that if they end Social Security, every one of them will lose their next primary, and Dems will control Congress for decades.
Following WWII, Dems controlled Congress for years, because Americans didn’t trust SS in the hands of Republicans. Eventually, even Republicans had to admit that it was untouchable.
He won’t dare touch SS, or it will be the end of the Republican Party.
“every one of them will lose their next primary, and Dems will control Congress for decades.”
Your optimism is blinding. The Dems will control Congress for 2 years, maybe 4. 6 at the absolute maximum. Your average Republican can watch their loved ones die because of Republican policies and blame Democrats 2 years later.
Also democrats won’t do anything to make structural change in the economy or wealth of the country, so even if given the reins of power, they will only succeed at not actively making life worse.
The litterally blamed Dems for talking about how bad COVID was gonna be, causing their oppositional-defiant toddler logic brains to reject common sense measures to prevent getting sick and dying.
Nah, they’ll blame it on democrats and 30% will believe it. Which is also apparently the number you need to win a presidential election these days.
Especially when a third of the country doesn’t even vote.
There have been so many things in the last some years that should have been the end of the Republican party…
I don’t think Republicans are able to process any conherant thought since 2016. If they suddenly don’t have their Social Security payments, Trump will point at someone else and they’ll just drool and nod along with what their cult leader said.
Plus how many rural dipshits were hurt by Trump in his first term and went for him again? How many are hurt by his even more expensive erosion of things and still think “This will be worth it, I just know the libs are more hurt by this.”
I’d like you to be right, but things have changed a lot since WW2.
For example, we have embraced the fascism that we previously fought.
And one of the things that has changed is that every working American of every political affiliation counts on their Social Security for their retirement. For many, it’s the only consistent savings they did for retirement. Take that away, and you will literally threaten their existence.
Millions of pissed off old people, with nothing to lose, many with military experience, is not a good enemy to create.
Yeah but you’re assuming that those old people will blame the correct people rather than continue to swallow the propaganda and blame literally anyone else
It’s going to be really hard for Trump to abolish SS, and try to blame the Dems, who don’t control shit. Sure, there are the MAGA Super-Morons, but most people are going to see very clearly, especially when Dems are screaming that if they get voted in, they’ll restore SS.
I have an aunt slowly dying of kidney disease, living on just Social Security. She got hit hard by the Medicare cuts and it hasn’t affected her love for Trump in the slightest. My mom just got a text from her where she says she’s looking forward to meeting “Jesus and Charlie Kirk” lol.
Nine months ago, I’d have said the same thing about Medicare, but here we are today with a trillion dollars in Medicare cuts coming, on top of the trillion in Medicaid. And MAGA seems super happy about it.
That is if they allow elections.
Secure the military to stop coups. declare martial law hold mock elections
There are working playbooks for this all over the world.
This is pitiful reporting by Newsweek. They’re happy to state what each side is saying about the situation, and they fail to do even the most basic research to fact check any of the statements.
The article cites Republicans as saying that Democrats “want to provide free health care to illegal aliens”. The heavy implication is that without the budget Reps are trying to push, we will be paying for that or that Dems wouldn’t approve a budget that didn’t - which is just patently untrue.
Ignoring that hospitals will, of course, provide emergency care to anyone (not for free, mind), and focusing on the idea of major U.S. benefits programs providing help to undocumented immigrants… they just don’t. They go to Americans and qualifying resident non-citizens, i.e. green-card holders, etc. who have been here 5+ years (Medicare) or have paid enough into the relevant taxes (Social Security). Medicaid is similar.
This is stuff I was previously familiar with and was able to verify in minutes using basic internet resources.
Republicans say or imply benefit money will go to undocumented immigrants unless this budget is passed, which is patently untrue and easy to check on. That Newsweek gives Republicans voice throughout the article to their claims, some false and some unfounded, but only gives one Democrat a quote - one that focuses on the shutdown itself more than the funding/benefit claims - is bullshit.
I’m not saying it’s wrong Newsweek didn’t give equal “time” to each side. I’m saying it’s wrong they spend so much of the article quoting misinformation from Republicans without any clear fact-checking.
There’s a quote, one with various forms and attributions, that posits to journalists:
If one person claims it’s raining and another says the sun is shining, the media’s job isn’t to quote both—it’s to look out the window and report the truth.
Our media is bought and paid for by wealthy interests who want all this.
It’s actually ironic that MAGA were right that a lot of mainstream media couldn’t be trusted… Just for the wrong fucking reasons and instead of being skeptical and thoughtful they just started listening to random asshats on the internet.
If it’s so important, Republicans should accept their very reasonable changes, Donald.
Social security has been withdrawn frim my paycheck for 40 years… shit better be there for me when its my turn.
Whats more dangerous than a starving, homeless man with nothing more to lose.
Ok, but hear me out. We didn’t have a ballroom in the white house for fancy parties.
Oh fuck. You’re right! Totally worth it. We’re so selfish.
25 million staving homeless men with a purpose
There are YouTube videos on how to build one of these.
Who knows what the future holds, but anyway the people over the past 40 years receiving social security direct deposited into their bank accounts every month thank you for your obligatory contributions. They couldn’t be living large without you 😜
Many retirees ain’t ‘living large’ as you seem to think. Many need to continue to work to afford groceries, pay rent, and buy medications. So many medications. And medicare doesn’t cover everything you need when your old. You pay for the Part B medicare, a minimum of $150 per month and the cost goes up if you have more money. But you STILL nee to buy extra supplemental insurance to cover the things medicare doesn’t cover. So several $100’s more a month for insurance. And do this while on a fixed income…
If you weren’t living large before you retired, you ain’t living large after you retire.
This is a casual discussion forum, sorry you didn’t see I was exaggerating. Any amount of money put into one’s bank account with no effort is “living large” (slight exaggeration) in my opinion. Hey I’m struggling too. Life is not easy.
The idea behind social security is that the recipients already put in a career’s worth of effort. They paid social security taxes for however many years, and now they are ENTITLED to the payments they receive in their retirement. It’s their money.
I understand but when we had to wait 50 years to get back that money we put into the pot, it’s retirement time and we are literally relaxing, not working anymore. The money appears in our bank accounts while we spend our last few years on vacation.
I’m so sorry you feel like you need to explain the concept of social security to me.
Someone with actual power.
But republicans control every facet of government right now. They can easily end the shutdown right now.
Just so we all see how this works, right? The Republicans point a gun to the head of everything normal decent people care about and hold the entire nation hostage.
Meanwhile, the vainglorious pedo-in-chief is building a golden ballroom and talking about building a stupid arch. All because he wants to leave a permanent skidmark associated with him not only on the way our country operates, but on its physical structures.
US entering the “third world country”-club. Congratulations.
There are almost 800,000 homeless in the US, you could have an entire city of just homeless people. US is already a 3rd world country. Has been for a long time now. ICE won’t even round them up cause even ICE doesn’t want to deal with them incarcerated.
US has less homeless per capita than Sweden, Germany, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, France, the UK. And others. You understand the US has 340+ million people right?
It’s also the richest country in the world with the biggest economy yet it has almost 1,000,000 homeless. Enough to populate a good sized city. That’s some cope.
Oh that’s right, America bad, I almost forgot.
The richest country on earth with the largest military, both by a large margin, should be able to have solved problems other countries haven’t.
Then again those clowns voted in a failed gameshow host with incontinence and dementia TWICE to their country’s highest office. He demo’d their White House and commits crimes on a daily basis and yet - tens of millions love him. So yeah:
Bro, the US has been a 3rd world country masquerading as a 1st world country a lot longer than Trump. The US propaganda machine is top tier, fooling American citizens that theyre greatest enemy is each other, as well as promoting individualism at the cost of the individual.
Richest nation on earth yet the majority are 1 health emergency away from bankruptcy, to people skipping doctor visits due to how expensive our Healthcare is while the rest of the world gets to enjoy free healthcare. Wake the fuck up, “entering” like thanks for the depressing ass chuckle this morning.
Not to be that guy, but the first, second, third world naming scheme stems from racism and isn’t based on any real statistics.
It’s actually from the Cold War.
1st world = USA, NATO, and their allies. 2nd world = USSR, the Eastern Bloc and their allies (the 2nd world doesn’t really exist anymore). 3rd world = anyone not in the 1st or 2nd categories.
You are right though it’s not about any real statistics. It’s about political alignment.
The president added of Democrats, “We will not be extorted on this crazy part of this. They’ve never done this before. Nobody has. You always vote for an extension.”
JFC. Republicans do this every single time Democrats have control of Congress. And, every single time…Democrats give them what they want, in order to get a deal made. Now that Democrats are finally following the Republicans example, they fuckin’ lose their shit, and everything falls apart.
And idiots lap it up and moan about how the Schumer shutdown is going to impact their appointment at the doctor next month if all those crazy socialists, like Nancy Pelosi, don’t listen to reason.
It’s not to bring down the deficit, it’s to bring down his own taxes.
He wants a redistribution of labor income straight to his pocket.
Rich people don’t pay SS taxes, essentially. There’s a cap on wages that are subject to FICA, and the truly rich don’t live off of wages anyway.
Anyone else remembers the Cheeto proclaiming that in just two weeks he’d have a healthcare bill that would be better than Medicare?
Pepperidge farm remembers
I cannot wait for the “pepperidge farm” stupid fucking Family Guy meme to just die off.
You don’t need to constantly parrot 20 year old memes. No one is reading that and going “haha, oh man so funny, like from the Family Guy show?? Lmao”
Maybe you’re right but also fuck you
I’ll take it.
Someday the money from the tariffs will trickle down to the common American. Just like the tax cuts for the rich from the 1980s.
